Is Bruno Lage A Good Manager Or Should He Go?

[PuntsWolf]

Don’t agree with most of your “positives” here.

I actually don't think he's as bad as many are making out. His ideas aren't terrible,

Are they not? Hwang as an inside forward? Donck the same or as an #8. Hwang and Traore as a front 2? Unadventurous midfield 3s with unadventurous WBs, hoofing the ball up to Podence. I mean he hasn’t played Ruddy up front if that’s your bar for “not terrible”

he's had some success with limited backing after a terrible season last time around, and he's improved Kilman, blooded Toti (then inexplicably dropped him) and Cundle, arguably got more out of Neves, Podence, Marcal and Moutinho than any of us expected,

Has he improved Kilman? He came in out the cold against Liverpool!? And was good very good. He’s just had more opportunity, which he only got because of injuries. He hasn’t got more out of Podence (2 goals), Marcal is Marcal and Neves and Moutinho are back to pre Covid levels.

and has not been helped by long-term injuries to Jonny and Neto, and disruptive injuries to Neves, Kilman, Mosquera, Podence, and Raul's failure to regain form. At times we've looked good, the football has been good, and it's not been a total disaster of a season.

Those two were injured before he joined. Big stretch to include them. All teams get injuries in the season. We’ve not really had anything major this year. Podence is made of biscuits. Raul can’t find form because we have no attacking style, we have no one up there and we don’t actually cross it/create chances.

The football was good for 3 games, United, then for 45 mins in a handful of games.

On the flip side, he's been tactically naive, slow to react, unimaginative in team selections and has been bloody lucky to have the best keeper in the league outside the top 4. He's eeked little out of Fabio despite signs he's starting to develop, and aside from Sa his signings have had little impact. There's also the question mark against his man management - several rumblings from the club that he isn't popular with the players - not an issue if they're performing well, but if they aren't, then that issue is potentially directly impacting performances. Leaving Ait-Nouri on despite him clearly having a terrible day at the office was baffling, and does nothing for a player's confidence.

Most concerning for me is despite his words in the press, the players clearly aren't listening right now. They've downed tools, aren't doing what he says/look confused when they do. He's becoming increasingly frustrated on the sidelines. The key risk indicators are all flashing red right now.

Not only do I think it's probably time to go at the end of the season, I think it'll be a miracle if the board don't think the same. Mind you, if jokers like Sellars and Vinny can keep their jobs, anything is possible

Agree with everything here though.

 

[Deano]

I know we are big underdogs in the next 2 games regardless but if we do lose them that will he 9 losses in the last 12 including 5 defeats on the spin, they'd have to at least look at it then surely.

 

[SSB]

Lage at 40/1 has to be worth a few quid

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/next-manager-to-leave-post/spreads/car_15

How much have you put on to shorten the odds to 9/1?

 

[Nando]

I know we are big underdogs in the next 2 games regardless but if we do lose them that will he 9 losses in the last 12 including 5 defeats on the spin, they'd have to at least look at it then surely.

City or Liverpool would annihilate us if we turn up like yesterday. A Southampton style destruction would have to be curtains.

 

[Carrotdude]

I honestly think we’re going to be in a relegation battle next season unless we go mad with recruitment (we won’t) or bring in a quality manager (we won’t). This will continue until we inevitably do end up in the second tier again and presumably at that point Fosun cut their losses.

I suppose if we’re in trouble in January they might actually put their hand in their pocket to try and keep us up as that’s all they’re bothered about.

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

I don't have anything new to say about him that I haven't been saying for the last few weeks. Sacking him could see an improvement, what it won't do is give us leadership or recruitment with a direction or purpose, reconnect the club to the fans or refresh a stale squad.

Not a reason to keep him and not a 'deckchairs on the titanic' situation, but if you get rid you are addressing one of a number of problems which may make a little difference if you don't address the fundamentals, even more so if we just go to Mendes for the next in line. The issues at the club are much bigger than Bruno Lage.

Pretty much where I'm at, the fact we have Large as our manager is a symptom of the problem at the club in my mind.

 

[Lupo]

Top Fox Wolf on MM (first broke the Nuno news a year ago apparently) says he has been told that Bruno has gone

 

[Boozad]

Really wouldn’t be surprised (or unhappy) after yesterday.

 

[The Bion]

If true we'll now be on Fosun's 5th appointment, with only 1 making it to a full year in charge

Much as there was concern last summer it'll be just as bad this time around, if not worse

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

So what, keeping him would be sunk cost fallacy. That's now three separate horrendous runs he's put us on (this one hasn't finished yet), how many more does he get to serve up?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If he is gone then, frankly, good.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Odds on Lage as next manager to leave post have massively shortened today.

 

[The Bion]

So what, keeping him would be sunk cost fallacy. That's now three separate horrendous runs he's put us on (this one hasn't finished yet), how many more does he get to serve up?

I'm not saying to keep him. Moreso (as seems to be becoming the consensus) there are issues with the management of the club from the top down - I've very little faith in them to get his replacement right as nothing suggests it.

I realise you were a bit ahead of the curve on this, be patient while the rest of us catch up

 

[AndyWolves]

Top Fox Wolf on MM (first broke the Nuno news a year ago apparently) says he has been told that Bruno has gone

Said poster now says he was hacked

 

[YoungWolf]

Said poster now says he was hacked

 

[SSB]

Said poster now says he was hacked

Does he work for a betting company?

 

[Tony Towner]

Said poster now says he was hacked

He'll be telling us he was looking for tractors next

 

[AndyWolves]

I reckon someones source got revealed

 

[thisisgil]

Odds on Lage as next manager to leave post have massively shortened today.

Where though? If you're talking about the exchanges, they also have Klopp and Pep as odds on favourites to be next to leave at 1.17....

I think Bruno is on a worrying trajectory. I'd like to see who he signs next season before anything else though.

 

[prawnking]

I think Bruno is on a worrying trajectory. I'd like to see who he signs next season before anything else though.

He'd need to properly get his shit together for the rest of the season before he got that privilege, imo