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[North Shropshire Lad]

But surely a clean slate for non ASTs at the start of each season is fair otherwise you only get the same fans at every game every season. I’d extend the number/percentage in the ballot at least. I’d also introduce a waiting list and explore other ways of distributing the away tickets, especially for the larger allocation games.
I’ve gone away for 35+ years missing very few up until five years ago and never required an AST as a home ST was always sufficient. Because I didn’t have an AST when they were capped / stopped it’s basically excluded me going away ‘officially’ ever again.
When we sold out of home ST there were still other ways you could get tickets - but until the hundred or so ballot away tickets (introduced last season) there was no chance of getting an away one if you hadn’t got carry over points from the previous season and you couldn’t have carry over point because you couldn’t get tickets the season before either, etc etc.

Even if you’re an AST, surely you can see the closed shop can’t be right? And before the ‘we went when you didn’t’ card is played by ASTs, football didn’t start in 2017!

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

This is my annual rant btw!

 

[sycophantia]

Bought some tickets for the Stade Rennais pre season game earlier. Ticketing site was shit, really clunky, kept freezing but I eventually managed to buy 2 tickets with 1 minute to spare on the countdown. Had to re enter my lads details on my account but simple enough.
I actually think the prices aren't too bad given the clubs current apparent scheme to fleece fans. Thought 11 quid was decent value even allowing for its a meaningless friendly. I was most surprised there was no admin fees.

 

[PuntsWolf]

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But surely a clean slate for non ASTs at the start of each season is fair otherwise you only get the same fans at every game every season.

But that’s how It was when we were shit?

I’d extend the number/percentage in the ballot at least

Mmm maybe. But that means more “regulars” miss out.

. I’d also introduce a waiting list and explore other ways of distributing the away tickets, especially for the larger allocation games.

People can always go to Newcastle, Brighton and Palace. People never do though.

I’ve gone away for 35+ years missing very few up until five years ago and never required an AST as a home ST was always sufficient. Because I didn’t have an AST when they were capped / stopped it’s basically excluded me going away ‘officially’ ever again

It’s not that a closed shop though. If you’d have been to a handful of aways in the championship season you were in. Then just ensure you go to the first three in the PL and you’re then in that top 3k.

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When we sold out of home ST there were still other ways you could get tickets - but until the hundred or so ballot away tickets (introduced last season) there was no chance of getting an away one if you hadn’t got carry over points from the previous season and you couldn’t have carry over point because you couldn’t get tickets the season before either, etc etc.

Even if you’re an AST, surely you can see the closed shop can’t be right? And before the ‘we went when you didn’t’ card is played by ASTs, football didn’t start in 2017!

It’s a tough one because opening up more tickets means a “regular” has to miss out because someone who bought a Home ST yesterday got in. Then as long they keep buying tickets they are in the closed shop and the “regular” finds themselves permanently excluded.

As I said, the lack of requirement for AST to buy has helped because before 1600 tickets would be gone straight away even if only 1k of them actually went. Now only 1k are being bought in those scenarios ( apart from ones using privilege to buy to pass on to a mate, which I have no problem with) which frees up more tickets.

But people are consistently buying tickets outside of AST because as soon as they stop, they aren’t going again for the foreseeable, so then that stops others buying and the cycle continues.

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

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But that’s how It was when we were shit?

Not sure I get your point here. When we were shit anyone could get a ticket and as a result different people went. I certainly did

Mmm maybe. But that means more “regulars” miss out.

But ‘regulars’ are only regulars because it’s a closed shop. I’d be a regular, like I was for over 30 years if I could get tickets now

People can always go to Newcastle, Brighton and Palace. People never do though.

The irony! The three games I got tickets for last season and two I got the season before. I also went to Man United and Arsenal on an AST ticket (holder didn’t go) plus Fulham, Spurs, Man City and Everton in the home end.

It’s not that a closed shop though. If you’d have been to a handful of aways in the championship season you were in. Then just ensure you go to the first three in the PL and you’re then in that top 3k.

But that’s the point - you couldn’t just go to the first three in the PL because ASTs had been introduced and availability was therefore reduced. Getting in that first 3k

It’s a tough one because opening up more tickets means a “regular” has to miss out because someone who bought a Home ST yesterday got in. Then as long they keep buying tickets they are in the closed shop and the “regular” finds themselves permanently excluded.

Getting lucky once in an expanded ballot (my idea of making a couple of hundred available) doesn’t make you guaranteed a ticket at the expense of a regular. Come on!
I’ve been going since 73, have missed less than 10 home games since 82 and apply for every ballot but haven’t got a single ticket. Regulars with loyalty points aren’t exactly ‘missing out’

As I said, the lack of requirement for AST to buy has helped because before 1600 tickets would be gone straight away even if only 1k of them actually went. Now only 1k are being bought in those scenarios ( apart from ones using privilege to buy to pass on to a mate, which I have no problem with) which frees up more tickets.

But people are consistently buying tickets outside of AST because as soon as they stop, they aren’t going again for the foreseeable, so then that stops others buying and the cycle continues.

We will disagree on this obviously because you want to keep it closed clearly and I want in. Because I didn’t have an AST at a moment in time (one wasn’t required) I don’t think I should be forever excluded. Especially given my ‘superfan’ (for TWF regulars) history A card I’m now playing given you said regulars shouldn’t be disadvantaged because new ST holders might get lucky once in a ballot.

P.S. see you in Dublin (although there are no points for that)

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Worth a listen...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681740947552346117

 

[PuntsWolf]

Not sure I get your point here. When we were shit anyone could get a ticket and as a result different people went. I certainly did

You could get general sale tickets in the PL under MM. Might settle down when we become regularly shit again.

But ‘regulars’ are only regulars because it’s a closed shop. I’d be a regular, like I was for over 30 years if I could get tickets now

I know, but the system how it is, then these people need to keep buying tickets if you want to keep going. As soon as you don’t go to one or two, you’ll be out of the loop and won’t be able to go again (like yourself).

The irony! The three games I got tickets for last season and two I got the season before. I also went to Man United and Arsenal on an AST ticket (holder didn’t go) plus Fulham, Spurs, Man City and Everton in the home end.

I’m not having a go. But I regularly see complaints on Twitter about not being able to get tickets, but these tickets for these games regularly go to general sale.

But that’s the point - you couldn’t just go to the first three in the PL because ASTs had been introduced and availability was therefore reduced. Getting in that first 3k

From memory you only needed to have 1060 points to get a ticket for that first West Ham game in the PL. that means 3 cup home games and three away games and you were in the closed shop. That surely shows that not many people went at all/to more than 1 or 2?

Getting lucky once in an expanded ballot (my idea of making a couple of hundred available) doesn’t make you guaranteed a ticket at the expense of a regular. Come on!

Fair. I’m using “regular” in inverted commas because i know the limitations of the statement.

I’ve been going since 73, have missed less than 10 home games since 82 and apply for every ballot but haven’t got a single ticket. Regulars with loyalty points aren’t exactly ‘missing out

We will disagree on this obviously because you want to keep it closed clearly and I want in. Because I didn’t have an AST at a moment in time (one wasn’t required) I don’t think I should be forever excluded. Especially given my ‘superfan’ (for TWF regulars) history A card I’m now playing given you said regulars shouldn’t be disadvantaged because new ST holders might get lucky once in a ballot.

If i was in your situation I’d be frustrated too! But did you not go to a handful in the championship? I don’t lnkow how you’re not in the closed shop?

All I’m saying is I don’t see a solution tbh.

P.S. see you in Dublin (although there are no points for that)

 

[Jinky]

Worth a listen...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1681740947552346117

I did have a chuckle at this last night (Bristol City fans seem to have an irrational hatred towards us as much as Norwich fans!) - and even though it's way OTT, it's difficult to disagree with his main point. During the 90's we did believe we were the biggest club in the Championship (or that's certainly how I felt). We had the most money, the biggest ground etc. Unfortunately none of that stuff equated to success on the pitch. But I personally felt some superiority compared to other clubs at that particular time. Especially as I was doing a lot of away games at that point and most of the grounds we visited were absolute dives.

 

[Langers]

Yeah there's some of that which is hard to disagree with but it did make me laugh.

Particularly from a supporter of 'Premier League club in the making' Bristol City. Who are probably still furious we didn't give them half the ground during that one season they actually mounted a promotion challenge.

Strangely, a demand that has never happened again since that season.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I don't recall any bad feeling towards Bradford when they went up at Molineux at all. In fact that day was good natured, I think Simpson hit the post in the last minute and there was some piss taking of their reaction, but in a good way.

Of course there might have been trouble outside the ground that I wasn't aware of.

 

[jd1981]

Who mentioned Wolves and the 90’s? This era is the precise reason I want to stay away from second tier football as long as possible.
11th,12th,11th,11th,7th,5th,20th,3rd,9th,7th placed finishes DW will correct me on some of these but you get the gist just such a mediocre league effort only 2 realistic promotion efforts, 2 play off pushes but the one in 94 was a very late surge.
Have more fond memories of cup football 3 QF and a semi final.
The pain was made worse by the stadium rebuild and squad investment that seemed to fill everyone over the age of 30 at that time with a degree of entitlement.
Being born in 81 I only ever knew us as a lower league or second tier club.
The old stories were a nice listen but a pain in the arse at the same time.

 

[Lupo]

I remember that summer of 1993, the tyre track shirt replaced by the clean all gold with black collar and cuffs modelled by new signings David Kelly (top scorer with promoted Newcastle the previous season), England midfielder Geoff Thomas and Kevin Keen from West Ham and feeling a huge excitement about the coming season with the ex-England boss in charge. Sadly it all ended in disappointment again but it didn't feel like it that summer

 

[sycophantia]

The guy is clearly pissed off because a middling town (city) in the West Midlands has a recent history of Premier league football, with a couple of excellent seasons, while his city, which he thinks is superior (obviously in some ways it is) has done the square root of fuck all in football in living memory.
I'm not sure any of the incidents he mentions are true apart from him having a poor experience and Wolverhampton being a shithole.
It's very funny.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I remember that summer of 1993, the tyre track shirt replaced by the clean all gold with black collar and cuffs modelled by new signings David Kelly (top scorer with promoted Newcastle the previous season), England midfielder Geoff Thomas and Kevin Keen from West Ham and feeling a huge excitement about the coming season with the ex-England boss in charge. Sadly it all ended in disappointment again but it didn't feel like it that summer

Probably the most excited I've ever been for a season, but I was only 11 so didn't have a clue!

All three of those were such good signings, trouble was (other than injuries) we became a target for every club playing us and they raised their game, and we couldn't deal with it.

 

[Lupo]

I presume the incident involving a Norwich fan dying at Molineux is actually a reference to the Watford fan who suffered life threatening injuries a few years back unless I've forgotten an incident involving the Canaries?

 

[Sniffer]

I remember that summer of 1993, the tyre track shirt replaced by the clean all gold with black collar and cuffs modelled by new signings David Kelly (top scorer with promoted Newcastle the previous season), England midfielder Geoff Thomas and Kevin Keen from West Ham and feeling a huge excitement about the coming season with the ex-England boss in charge. Sadly it all ended in disappointment again but it didn't feel like it that summer

I walked away from the season opener ironically against Bristol City thinking that we'd piss the league. Its probably the 100th time that I've said it on here but if it wasn't for Lee Howey I think we'd have been promoted.

Turner was still in charge though.

 

[Tredman]

I presume the incident involving a Norwich fan dying at Molineux is actually a reference to the Watford fan who suffered life threatening injuries a few years back unless I've forgotten an incident involving the Canaries?

Norwich is another weird little club with an obsession over us. Must be something about living in the extremities of England which gives them a complex about those of us sensible enough to live in the middle

 

[Jack Regan]

Norwich is another weird little club with an obsession over us. Must be something about living in the extremities of England which gives them a complex about those of us sensible enough to live in the middle

Muscat doing Bellamy has something to do with that I think.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I presume the incident involving a Norwich fan dying at Molineux is actually a reference to the Watford fan who suffered life threatening injuries a few years back unless I've forgotten an incident involving the Canaries?

Yeah that was what I thought too.

Both Reading and Norwich have complained about our fans attacking them too.

So other than local rivals, we have Norwich, Bolton and Reading that hate us, bit weird.

Never known Bristol City have any beef with us before this bloke, however we do have a really good record against them and I think Bully scored more goals against them than any other side?

 

[Lupo]

Yeah that was what I thought too.

Both Reading and Norwich have complained about our fans attacking them too.

So other than local rivals, we have Norwich, Bolton and Reading that hate us, bit weird.

Never known Bristol City have any beef with us before this bloke, however we do have a really good record against them and I think Bully scored more goals against them than any other side?

When I first heard it yesterday I genuinely wondered if he was one of their pricks in a costume attacked by Wolfie at Ashton Gate!