[FA Cup 3rd Rnd] Liverpool 2-2 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Johnny75]

I'd say what he's written is shite.

I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure there are 4 cameras used for VAR which are permanently wide angle and have to be on all the time to cover the whole pitch. I'm also pretty sure all the VAR cameras are available 100% of the time, 4 wide 2 mid and 2 tight on each area of the pitch (40+ for the whole stadium). You've then got the tight focus and slo-mo cameras focused on each area too.

 

[Tony Towner]

You say everything he writes is shite . I'm not saying you are incorrect, but on this occasion even he must have done his research before publishing? Otherwise it's not shite, it's just made up.

 

[Johnny75]

You say everything he writes is shite . I'm not saying you are incorrect, but on this occasion even he must have done his research before publishing? Otherwise it's not shite, it's just made up.

He's not researched it very well, if at all, as most of his articles aren't.

 

[darlowolf64]

There did seem to be plenty of camera angles a little while before when they were trying to find a reason to disallow Hwang's goal...

 

[The Bear]

I'd say what he's written is shite.

I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure there are 4 cameras used for VAR which are permanently wide angle and have to be on all the time to cover the whole pitch. I'm also pretty sure all the VAR cameras are available 100% of the time, 4 wide 2 mid and 2 tight on each area of the pitch (40+ for the whole stadium). You've then got the tight focus and slo-mo cameras focused on each area too.

Agreed. VAR doesn't rely on broadcast camera angles. They have multiple different views like you say, all at higher FPS as far as I remember.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Much higher FPS

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If VAR required broadcast cameras then every ground would have it for round 3 as every game gets full tv camera coverage. But VAR is only at premier league grounds. Everything suggests it’s a different system

 

[Johnny75]

Agreed. VAR doesn't rely on broadcast camera angles. They have multiple different views like you say, all at higher FPS as far as I remember.

And just like that

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612532376789213186

 

[PuntsWolf]

Pretty sure the VAR cameras are fixed as they are the ones used for Hawkeye too

 

[PuntsWolf]

Although that camera moves…

 

[Johnny75]

Pretty sure the VAR cameras are fixed as they are the ones used for Hawkeye too

That's a separate system.

 

[Johnny75]

Although that camera moves…

Camera doesn't move that's just somebody using an editing tool.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Camera doesn't move that's just somebody using an editing tool.

It pans to the halfway line at the end?

 

[Johnny75]

It pans to the halfway line

So it does.

Might not be part of the VAR system in that case.

The VAR cameras are fixed with same wide angle lenses.

 

[PuntsWolf]

It’s a farce regardless. I don’t think it’s a difficult decision to make, linesman gets it wrong with a huge dose of guesswork, linesman is “reminded” to flag, then they can’t check it because they only have one camera and not the neccessary two…

It’s fucking obvious on that still without needing “calibrated lines” but as they don’t have them they “can’t be sure”. So have to stick with a blatantly obvious wrong call but will then forensically analyse a toe nail offside to try to disallow another. Joke

 

[Quirkafleeg]

And just like that

https://twitter.com/x/status/1612532376789213186

The fucking idiots have given the offside for the Collins header not the second header..

 

[The Bear]

The fucking idiots have given the offside for the Collins header not the second header..

It's fairly obvious the lino wasn't going to flag until the ref encouraged him to do so, probably because Nunes looked offside from his angle.

 

[Johnny75]

The fucking idiots have given the offside for the Collins header not the second header..

Can't be offside from the Collins header because Hwang touches it next.

 

[Tony Towner]

Think that's Quirk's point

 

[The Bear]

Think that's Quirks point

That's what I initially assumed, he'd flagged for the Collins header mistakenly, but you can see now that he wasn't going to flag at all. If he was waiting until the move was over it would have been raised as soon as it went in the goal.