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Euro 2020

Ukraine it is not to savvy on them any good or average?
 
They are dreadful. Anything less than a 2 goal win would statistically be a poor result but in KO football any win will do.
 
Just fuck off with the euros..fine margines after the red card
 
jd1981 said:
Ukraine it is not to savvy on them any good or average?
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They are very capable of scoring goals and just as capable of conceding. They are happy to play on the counter attack and have some quick players who seem to perform better for country than club ( see Pickford for comparison). Personally I am pleased a 3 rd place side made it this far. It gives others hope and proves what we already know , that its all about getting out of the group somehow and in KO football a win is a win. I think that Ukraine may be absolutely knackered. It looked a real toil last night. Underestimate them at your peril.
 
Ukraine are 4.5 to go through in the Ukraine v England odds on Betfair. If you look elsewhere on the same site they are 5.1 to reach the semi final.
 
AndyWolves said:
Kane looks like hes had half an ounce of ketamine
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One hell of a K hole that would be,, lucky he managed to get himself out of it to knock that header in!

Is it too early to start dreaming of a final, or has harry just passed me the rest of his bag?
 
Newbridge Wolf said:
One hell of a K hole that would be,, lucky he managed to get himself out of it to knock that header in!

Is it too early to start dreaming of a final, or has harry just passed me the rest of his bag?
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Not making it would be a failure from here.
 
Jasperwolf said:
They are very capable of scoring goals and just as capable of conceding. They are happy to play on the counter attack and have some quick players who seem to perform better for country than club ( see Pickford for comparison). Personally I am pleased a 3 rd place side made it this far. It gives others hope and proves what we already know , that its all about getting out of the group somehow and in KO football a win is a win. I think that Ukraine may be absolutely knackered. It looked a real toil last night. Underestimate them at your peril.
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I don't think anyone in the England camp will be underestimating them. We all saw what happened against Iceland a few years back when we did that - and ultimately, it's tournament knockout football, so anything can happen. But I enjoyed Southgate's interview after the game last night about them having not achieved anything yet, that they were already thinking about Saturday etc. He made all the right noises and you have to put trust in him, given the way the team performed last night.

Personally, from watching a few of Ukraine's games, I can see them sticking every man behind the ball - attempting to frustrate us - and then trying to hit us on the break. I don't think there will be much room in behind for the likes of Sterling & Saka to run in to, as I reckon Ukraine will be so deep. So I think Southgate will go back to Foden/Grealish to try and pass through the lines and to make stuff happen in and around the edge of the box. Surely we go back to 4 as well and bring Mount back in.

Pickford
Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Rice Phillips
Foden Mount Grealish
Kane
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lemonjelly said:
anyone thinking sterling won't be starting is delusional. He's our top scorer ffs.
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I wouldn't say "delusional". I'd say giving him a rest in a match where other players could be of use would be smart management.

Given he is our "top scorer ffs", I'm sure everyone would be happy with him being picked to start. But can see the sense of giving him a breather, with potentially bigger games to come.
 
Jinky said:
I don't think anyone in the England camp will be underestimating them. We all saw what happened against Iceland a few years back when we did that - and ultimately, it's tournament knockout football, so anything can happen. But I enjoyed Southgate's interview after the game last night about them having not achieved anything yet, that they were already thinking about Saturday etc. He made all the right noises and you have to put trust in him, given the way the team performed last night.

Personally, from watching a few of Ukraine's games, I can see them sticking every man behind the ball - attempting to frustrate us - and then trying to hit us on the break. I don't think there will be much room in behind for the likes of Sterling & Saka to run in to, as I reckon Ukraine will be so deep. So I think Southgate will go back to Foden/Grealish to try and pass through the lines and to make stuff happen in and around the edge of the box. Surely we go back to 4 as well and bring Mount back in.

Pickford
Walker Stones Maguire Shaw
Rice Phillips
Foden Mount Grealish
Kane
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I'd agree with all except Sterling . If Southgate was to drop him it would have been for the Croatia or Czech games. Sterling on the right with Grealish on the left or Grealish for Mount with Sterling on the left.
 
Team is evolving anyway like at any tournament. Mount can't get in now. Nor Foden. It's sad but it's the way we set up and the team must come first.
 
Newbridge Wolf said:
One hell of a K hole that would be,, lucky he managed to get himself out of it to knock that header in!

Is it too early to start dreaming of a final, or has harry just passed me the rest of his bag?
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He was still shit but was in the right place at the right time to score.

If he hadn't scored he'd be getting absolute pelters today.
 
There's definite logic in swapping Saka for Grealish/Foden. There's not going to be much space in behind at all, and Foden/Super Jack are definitely better at receiving under pressure and creating their own space for me Clive
 
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still gutted we lost that game against Ukraine...my view on the red card, Danielsson Playes the ball and the Ukrainian player runs into his boot...but I understand you are responsible of your feet and it is regarded as reckless play or something..although many people here in sweden concedes it was a red card..im not that sure myself
 
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