Coronavirus

[lemonjelly]

my workplace has ramped up from 1 day, to now being 3, and Marks experience is very much like mine I feel.
Presenteeism is definitely a thing. Seen people at work with "minor illness" that they could manage working from home.
Also aware of friends/family having colds yet still visiting all and sundry without a second thought.

Our workplace will say they're uber supportive, but then when you try getting flexibility, it is less accessible that you'd hope.

 

[Jack Regan]

We're in the office three days of five for the most part. I'm however lucky that the building I work in is crap (shit ventilation so limited numbers allowed on each floor plate) so I have to do only one day in office a week.

For the most part I work just as well at home as in the office (I appreciate it depends on folks personalities as to which is more preferable) I also deliberately made sure after the COVID period that there was no difference in performance between office and home (unless I was doing work only able to be conducted in office) so there was no justification that I need to be in office more often.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Osborne to be questioned today on the fact that austerity weakened the NHS and affected our ability to deal with the pandemic. Yesterday, Dave defended the policy saying dealing with the deficit had made Britain stronger.

I'm glad they're being pulled up on this. Austerity was one of the stupidest things any govt has done - and that's up against some very decent competition.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Osborne to be questioned today on the fact that austerity weakened the NHS and affected our ability to deal with the pandemic. Yesterday, Dave defended the policy saying dealing with the deficit had made Britain stronger.

I'm glad they're being pulled up on this. Austerity was one of the stupidest things any govt has done - and that's up against some very decent competition.

Labour enabled it at the time too.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Labour enabled it at the time too.

Didn't they just. Reeves still talks about 'fiscal responsibility' today. I despair.

 

[lemonjelly]

Osborne to be questioned today on the fact that austerity weakened the NHS and affected our ability to deal with the pandemic. Yesterday, Dave defended the policy saying dealing with the deficit had made Britain stronger.

I'm glad they're being pulled up on this. Austerity was one of the stupidest things any govt has done - and that's up against some very decent competition.

He still occasionally tweets along the lines of "it was the right thing to do" and there is no way he will back down. I mean, his legacy is austerity, so he will huncker down. But he will also refute any accountability, see his actions following the referendum, or the 2 faced way he called out jimmy carr whilst engaging in his own benefitting from tax avoidance etc.

In theory it is good he is being pulled up on this, however in the grand scheme, it's not going to have any real impact sadly. There will not be any accountability.

It was telling that NHS bosses have already been releasing statements about how austerity fucked us over. Camerons position is not defense-able, but he will continue to stick his fingers in his ears and la-la-la, because he believes he is better than everyone else, so there.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Didn't they just. Reeves still talks about 'fiscal responsibility' today. I despair.

They are already abandoning their promise of Universal childcare, presumably because of 'fiscal responsibility'?

 

[Templeton Peck]

They are already abandoning their promise of Universal childcare, presumably because of 'fiscal responsibility'?

And the Green stuff. I wonder if climate change gives a shit about fiscal responsibility?

 

[lemonjelly]

Whitty before the enquiry today. His engagement with the inquiry puts cameron and osborne to shame. He is addressing the issues. they tried to defend their legacy.
Some of Whitty's answers trash their statements though.

edit - also interesting to read the bbc research suggesting the UKs death rate was significantly worse than other nations.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Some other nations. US Poland and Italy were far worse.

 

[Del Woppio]

Tbf Italy have the most mitigation as they were the first majorly hit European country. We were watching them for six weeks thinking "pfft, it won't get that bad over here". USA, Trump didn't take it at all seriously; no idea on Poland

 

[Johnny75]

Tbf Italy have the most mitigation as they were the first majorly hit European country. We were watching them for six weeks thinking "pfft, it won't get that bad over here". USA, Trump didn't take it at all seriously; no idea on Poland

Poland's run by right wing loons.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Tbf Italy have the most mitigation as they were the first majorly hit European country. We were watching them for six weeks thinking "pfft, it won't get that bad over here".

"We" (as in our government) were so fucking arrogant about that, it was clear what was coming. We had the advantage of seeing it on the horizon and being able to plan for it.

But we did fuck all!

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Poland's run by right wing loons.

So are we.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

"We" (as in our government) were so fucking arrogant about that, it was clear what was coming. We had the advantage of seeing it on the horizon and being able to plan for it.

But we did fuck all!

They'll argue the toss either way about whether it actually made any material difference but letting 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans come over from a Covid hotspot and then allowing 250,000 people to attend Cheltenham over four days seemed ridiculous even then.

Without going into the "don't go to the pub, but we're aren't closing them, but we might soon" debacle.

 

[Kenny]

Without going into the "don't go to the pub, but we're aren't closing them, but we might soon" debacle.

Best one on that was "OK OK we are closing the pubs....in 2 days time. DO NOT go and have one last night out please"

 

[Sniffer]

A new variant has been discovered in London and Kent and its more transmissible than the previous version but we aren't going to close schools in the last week before Christmas. If any school does so we will take them to court and force them to open.

or on the return to school after Christmas.

Schools are safe, schools are safe, schools are safe, schools are safe but 6 hours later - we are closing all schools.

 

[Sniffer]

They'll argue the toss either way about whether it actually made any material difference but letting 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans come over from a Covid hotspot and then allowing 250,000 people to attend Cheltenham over four days seemed ridiculous even then.

Without going into the "don't go to the pub, but we're aren't closing them, but we might soon" debacle.

Was it the same week that a smaller number of Espanyol fans turned up at Molineux?

Edit: No it was a couple of weeks before.

 

[Johnny75]

Was it the same week that a smaller number of Espanyol fans turned up at Molineux?

Edit: No it was a couple of weeks before.

There was a fair few folks who flew to Spain 2 weeks later too.

 

[Kenny]

Espanyol away was the very end of Feb (I only remember because I took the wife on an Anniversary trip to Edinburgh and delayed our meal so I could watch the game. Stay classy and all that.)

Few weeks later Wolverhampton was becoming an early hotbed for Covid.

Governments biggest issue was they seemed to know they had to make difficult decisions that would upset people but instead of doing it they tried to pass the responsibility to others and were still doing well into the Pandemic

All because Boris wanted to be popular. Getting headlines like "Boris saves Christmas" is all he as interested in. No one is getting positive PR in a Pandemic yet that was the target.