Burnley 2-1 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Kenny]

He's always been a box to box midfielder, getting the ball of the defence and laying it off or breaking forward. A 10 he is not.

Well if Donk had been fit, we would played him in that role tonight, and a 10 he is not (maybe a 9 though...)

Is Alf available as it looks like we need him

 

[prawnking]

Why would I do that? I'm not from Leeds and football doesn't really work like that. Appreciate the suggestion though.

Anyway, back to wolves.

I'd just quite like us to find a way to get our quality, attacking footballers, play some consistent, quality, attacking football. I don't think that's wildly unreasonable.

Perfectly reasonable. We all know Nuno is pragmatic, but there's good and bad Nunoball.

You can justify Burnley making your eyes bleed, they're punching above their weight. We have had enough talent and investment over the past few years to have higher standards and ambitious.

From a team that, regardless of the result, used to have a clear identity and purpose, we've very quickly become a bit of a weird mess

 

[Kenny]

Still talking sense I see.

still?

Nice return btw young man

 

[Johnny75]

Perfectly reasonable. We all know Nuno is pragmatic, but there's good and bad Nunoball.

You can justify Burnley making your eyes bleed, they're punching above their weight. We have had enough talent and investment over the past few years to have higher standards and ambitious.

From a team that, regardless of the result, used to have a clear identity and purpose, we've very quickly become a bit of a weird mess

We have lost our talismanic striker which seems to have escaped people’s attention by the looks of things.

Nuno got it wrong tonight in so many ways and I wonder if Raul is missed by Nuno far more than just being a player.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Can't bring myself to give much of a verdict, that performance wasn't worthy of one. Nuno is responsible for that mess. He looks a man short of ideas on how to get things right and consequently got almost everything wrong.

 

[Del Woppio]

Did you miss the second half of the Chelsea game?

And if you want consistent attacking football Leeds is definitely your team. Spoiler - they’re a bit shit defensively, exciting to watch and in no way boring.

Of course if you want both I hear there are some pigs taking off soon.

No team is consistently attacking and brilliantly defensive bar Liverpool. City are struggling to create and Spurs are dull as Mourinho sides tend to be.

We’re a mid-table team and inconsistency at this level is always going to be likely.

I did, it was very good, and it was noteworthy how comfortable all the players looked in a 'back to basics' performance.

But this is the Burnley verdict. And it was shit. And really, its been pretty poor going forward since lockdown, no? Except now we're not even that great at the back. By and large, it's like he's robbed Peter, but not paid Paul.

And I really don't want to support Leeds, but again thanks for the heads up

 

[Johnny75]

No it hasn’t been pretty poor since lockdown. Inconsistent yes, poor no.

Did you miss our striker getting injured?

 

[redvictor]

Just watched Nuno's interview. I've never seen him so agitated on camera. Like he was going to walk off mid way through it.

 

[Kenny]

I wouldn't be surprised if this season hits a wall soon....if they want to cancel it and we all start again next August that would be great. I thought every game on TV would be ace, its not

 

[AndyWolves]

How did Silva play?

 

[prawnking]

We have lost our talismanic striker which seems to have escaped people’s attention by the looks of things.

Sorry, our attention was taken up supporting Leeds.

Easy cop out blaming Raul. Of course you're always going to miss a player like that, which is why spending your striker budget on 'let's not play him he isn't ready' Fabio was a risk that could well cost us.

Also, we had the most of the same issues even when Raul was playing this season, he himself was way below his usual standard

 

[Jinky]

How did Silva play?

Did alright. Won a penalty, scored it. Few nice flicks.

Put simply, he should have started. Not even saying that with the benefit of hindsight - Nuno has picked a side without a focal point literally two weeks ago and we were shite. He should have learnt his lesson then but didn’t.

He has to start until we can buy someone else to share the burden in January.

 

[Kenny]

How did Silva play?

Well he won and scored a penalty so compared to the rest 10/10

He took a few mins to get into the game, certainly wasn't bullied and got stuck in. Not perfect but won't be right now

 

[Del Woppio]

No it hasn’t been pretty poor since lockdown. Inconsistent yes, poor no.

Did you miss our striker getting injured?

I dunno mate. There was only really the Everton game in which we were much cop post lockdown last season, and this season has largely been a borefest. Not all the time, but more often than not.

And no I didn't, but like I say, it's not really a new problem, as much as he is missed

 

[Paul]

Still talking sense I see.

Ok then who thought the night couldn't get any worse ???

 

[Kenny]

Put simply, he has to start until we can buy someone else to share the burden in January.

Big month for Jeff. we have to have the Raul replacement lined up and ready to go very early doors in January

 

[ROVERT47]

Ok then who thought the night couldn't get any worse ???

Don’t worry, probably only a one off.

 

[Premier Quality]

As bad as we were you also have to give them credit. They make it so frigging hard and you get what we did tonight, over thinking how to break them down.
From the last few years, I would say just wear the Man City kit as Burnley fold whenever they see that

They have a plan and they stick with it - there’s something we could learn from that.

i don’t like the way they play, but they do get the ball forward quickly, whereas we fanny about going sideways and backwards until we lose the ball because the opposition are defensively set. Other than the counter attacks, we are awful going forward.

 

[Carrotdude]

We used to dominate games in the championship and even some when we came up but it so rarely happens now, we seem to have become exclusively cautious and counter attacking regardless of opposition. I honestly would rather we played 4 at the back as our defending isn’t great anyway and we can at least create more with an extra attacking player. Pleased for Silva, that’s about all we can take from tonight, hopefully we can bounce back next week.

 

[Kenny]

Think this is fair from Nuno

"“The game required dynamic movements and we were passing the ball and staying still, that is why it was difficult."

That was a huge issue in the 1st half. Got the ball outwide and then apart from Otasowie making a run (then being assaulated) no one else moved. When they did we got it wrong, best example was right at the end of the 1st half when Podence spotted Semedo in acres of space inside the area and over hit the pass. get that right and Semedo has 2 option, shoot or a simple ball to Neto who was unmarked 8 yards from goal.