Brighton 3-3 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Wilf Wolf]

We'll never be an attacking team whilst two central midfielders have a phobia of going into the opponents box. Leeds are at one end of the spectrum, we're at the opposite end in terms of committing players forward - there has to be a middle road. People moan that Leicester and Man United get soft penalties - the main reason is they regularly get players into the box. Raul missing has deflected from the real problem.

 

[Johnny75]

So where should he play? He is learning fast unlike the experienced Moutinho who knows less every game.

A loan to the Championship or LigaNOS (Familicao/ Braga) would do him the world of good. I think he's very similar to Harry Kane in style and clearly he can play, but just not at this level right now.

And please stop digging out Moutinho and promoting Ruddy. Ruddy was finished 2 years ago, his footwork and positioning has gone.

Joao was poor tonight in the second half once he'd given the penalty away and Nuno should've hooked him as he was clearly struggling after 60 minutes.

If you can't see his positioning, touch and short passing still keeps us ticking then I don't know what to say. I think we may be at the stage where we need to play a more dynamic midfielder to play with Joao/ Neves to get the best out of this team but the bigger problems lie with tempo rather than technique.

 

[Loki]

Well, we are a right Jekyll and Hyde team atm. Tonight we were Mr. Hyde. The half time score flattered to deceive, thank you Mr. Burn. Anybody have any positives with regards second half? As, I think, most people agree, we need a striker. The kid isn`t ready by a country mile. I think playing him isn`t only not good for the team, it isn`t good for the lad. A loan in an English league would be better for his development. Not looking for scapegoats here but, not convinced with Semedo defensively. Neves and Moutinho does not work in midfield. Worryingly our defence seem lacking in confidence. Confident we are safe this season. The close season will be interesting.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

A loan to the Championship or LigaNOS (Familicao/ Braga) would do him the world of good. I think he's very similar to Harry Kane in style and clearly he can play, but just not at this level right now.

And please stop digging out Moutinho and promoting Ruddy. Ruddy was finished 2 years ago, his footwork and positioning has gone.

Joao was poor tonight in the second half once he'd given the penalty away and Nuno should've hooked him as he was clearly struggling after 60 minutes.

If you can't see his positioning, touch and short passing still keeps us ticking then I don't know what to say. I think we may be at the stage where we need to play a more dynamic midfielder to play with Joao/ Neves to get the best out of this team but the bigger problems lie with tempo rather than technique.

Now to me if you add podence behind Neto and Costa and Otasowie beside Neves we have a semblance of order. Traore was decent tonight but is still a luxury without a decent centre forward . I have not a clue what our best 11 is let. Alone our best formation. I reckon that’s part of the problem

 

[YoungWolf]

If you can't see his positioning, touch and short passing still keeps us ticking then I don't know what to say. I think we may be at the stage where we need to play a more dynamic midfielder to play with Joao/ Neves to get the best out of this team but the bigger problems lie with tempo rather than technique.

On this - I think I agree. Problem at moment is it leaves us needing to play Donck in that role as he is the one with that mobility but his attacking ability is so limited. Means another position we need to sign in

 

[BeaverWolf]

A loan to the Championship or LigaNOS (Familicao/ Braga) would do him the world of good. I think he's very similar to Harry Kane in style and clearly he can play, but just not at this level right now.

And please stop digging out Moutinho and promoting Ruddy. Ruddy was finished 2 years ago, his footwork and positioning has gone.

Joao was poor tonight in the second half once he'd given the penalty away and Nuno should've hooked him as he was clearly struggling after 60 minutes.

If you can't see his positioning, touch and short passing still keeps us ticking then I don't know what to say. I think we may be at the stage where we need to play a more dynamic midfielder to play with Joao/ Neves to get the best out of this team but the bigger problems lie with tempo rather than technique.

I would rather see the youngster play every week & move on the fading superstar with the dangling leg whose first thought is to pass backwards. When did he last score - all midfielders have to score the odd goal surely?

 

[Tredman]

On this - I think I agree. Problem at moment is it leaves us needing to play Donck in that role as he is the one with that mobility but his attacking ability is so limited. Means another position we need to sign in

Header aside I don’t think Otasowie has done much wrong in the games he’s played. Yes he’s young, but when Donk is back he’s not going to be playing every game.

 

[redvictor]

If you read what Neves said on the Wolves page then that sums it up for me. Player responsibilty and then when someone drops the ball they seem to go into their shells rather than come out with all guns blazing, like the top teams do. It's a bad trait, which comes with confidence knocking results.

 

[BeaverWolf]

A loan to the Championship or LigaNOS (Familicao/ Braga) would do him the world of good. I think he's very similar to Harry Kane in style and clearly he can play, but just not at this level right now.

And please stop digging out Moutinho and promoting Ruddy. Ruddy was finished 2 years ago, his footwork and positioning has gone.

Joao was poor tonight in the second half once he'd given the penalty away and Nuno should've hooked him as he was clearly struggling after 60 minutes.

If you can't see his positioning, touch and short passing still keeps us ticking then I don't know what to say. I think we may be at the stage where we need to play a more dynamic midfielder to play with Joao/ Neves to get the best out of this team but the bigger problems lie with tempo rather than technique.

I would rather see the youngster play every week & move on the fading superstar with the dangling leg whose first thought is to pass backwards. When did he last score - all midfielders have to score the odd goal surely?

‘his positioning, touch and short passing’ counts for nothing when he gives needless penalties away or gets needlessly sent off. I am not advocating Ruddy - merely pointing out that he got slaughtered for a couple of errors while Rui’s errors are fine apparently!

 

[redvictor]

I would rather see the youngster play every week & move on the fading superstar with the dangling leg whose first thought is to pass backwards. When did he last score - all midfielders have to score the odd goal surely?

Fading? I don't think that is a fair reflection on a player that is still playing for his country at 34. He made a mistake. We all do to be fair. He'll be beating himself up about it all night.

 

[BeaverWolf]

But he won't say any different either. He rarely, if ever, blows up in pre/post-match conferences. He is right: we do need to improve.

But that is a given. If he drops the hapless Moutinho next game then we know he means business. Difficult I know as our options are limited.

 

[Johnny75]

I would rather see the youngster play every week & move on the fading superstar with the dangling leg whose first thought is to pass backwards. When did he last score - all midfielders have to score the odd goal surely?

Has Joao stolen your daughter and killed your cat?

And Fabio and Moutinho play in different positions.

 

[BeaverWolf]

Fading? I don't think that is a fair reflection on a player that is still playing for his country at 34. He made a mistake. We all do to be fair. He'll be beating himself up about it all night.

How many awful mistakes recently do you need? The Villa sending off you might think he would learn from. He is a yard short of the necessary pace at this level so needs replacing by a better signing. I am a fan but we need to move on.

 

[Trips]

‘his positioning, touch and short passing’ counts for nothing when he gives needless penalties away or gets needlessly sent off. I am not advocating Ruddy - merely pointing out that he got slaughtered for a couple of errors while Rui’s errors are fine apparently!

Needless penalty, not penalties. Also he didnt touch the Villa player, not sure how you can vilify him for an opposition player diving

 

[Johnny75]

How many awful mistakes recently do you need? The Villa sending off you might think he would learn from. He is a yard short of the necessary pace at this level so needs replacing by a better signing. I am a fan but we need to move on.

The Villa sending off was the result of a terrible dive and piss poor refereeing decision.

 

[Jabbawolf]

I would rather see the youngster play every week & move on the fading superstar with the dangling leg whose first thought is to pass backwards. When did he last score - all midfielders have to score the odd goal surely?

You’re getting very repetitive now....

 

[BeaverWolf]

Has Joao stolen your daughter and killed your cat?

And Fabio and Moutinho play in different positions.

At least have a sensible argument. Who lost us the game tonight? Moutinho - 2nd goal 100% & made a mistake that led to their 3rd. I like Moutinho - but he has lost that necessary yard of pace.

 

[YoungWolf]

He’s still trying to think of all the other countless mistakes he’s made

 

[BeaverWolf]

The Villa sending off was the result of a terrible dive and piss poor refereeing decision.

Who dangled the leg? The referee?

 

[Trips]

Who dangled the leg? The referee?

So you genuinely blame Joao for the sending off against Villa, not the referee or the Villa player who dived?