Bournemouth 1 Wolves 2: The verdict thread

[WolfmanOz]

I completely disagree. Look who was winning stuff. Liverpool Everton Forest, Arsenal, Spurs, Coventry, Wolves, West Ham, Man Utd, Ipswich, Aston Villa Norwich, all won something at least once between 1977 and 1987. The league was far less predictable and far more competitive than now as were the cups.

I said early 70s i.e. the Wolves team from 70/71 to 72/73 (3 seasons) . . . early 70s isn't the mid or late 70s or even the 80s (where God forbid we were mostly awful).

70/71 finished 4th (equal 3rd on pts).
71/72 finished 9th (with a runners up in the UEFA Cup Final - Europa League equivalent)
72/73 finished 5th (with semi final appearance in both the League Cup & FA Cup when all teams had a go from the early rounds)

69/70 Wolves were consistently in the top 6 for 2/3s of the season before they fell away to 13th and in 73/74 they were mostly mid-table (finished 12th) but did win a major trophy - the League Cup.

Yes more teams had a chance as the game didn't have so much money concentrated with a handful of clubs who buy up all the best players - talent was more evenly spread across many clubs.

Our current team is better coached, with a far superior keeper and a much sounder defence; the midfield is interesting as Neves and Moutinho are genuine stars but Bailey, McCalliog and Hibbit would consistently score more goals (well the last 2 for sure).

Up front it's again difficult to compare as Richards and Dougan were arguably the best 2 strike force in Europe for close to 2 seasons, supported by the best winger I've ever seen in Wolves colours in Waggy; but then Raul, Jota and finally Traore are bringing something special to the table; but the EARLY 70s team had more goals in them but then they'd concede a few more as well.

 

[Johnny75]

Haven’t seen the games yet, but based on xG MOTD have it right. Stats don’t tell the whole story but the xG also meets the eye test. Neither keeper had a save to make and the only chances were set pieces.

You must've missed the Ramsdale saves from Doc, Raul and Jota, the long range strike from Saiss and the ball cleared off the line. The sending off and potential sending off along with the horrific dive from Smith were also moments in the match. This obsession with meaningless stats is frustrating, particularly when used fot confirmation bias.

I couldn't care less where we are on MOTD as I think the programme is shite but saying our game doesn't pass the eye test and we only had set plays is bollocks.

 

[Rui_CostCo]

13 unbeaten in all competitions

8 in the league.

Discuss

Thought I'd catch up on on all the upbeat positive post win thoughts while waiting for the Wilder fight. Shame there aren't many. First win away to The Cherries on a record beating run must be worth at least a half hearted smile?

First half, we were in total control against a side hellbent on being reduced to 10, who eventually got their wish. Second half was a combination of us taking our foot off the pedal and Bournemouth reacting after the break how you would hope we would.

The League table makes comforting viewing. We've gone from relegation zone to fifth, and some people are sniffing that we'll never be top 4. With Leicester in second.

I'm going to sit back, watch the boxing and smell the roses. There's much more to come from this side yet.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I said early 70s i.e. the Wolves team from 70/71 to 72/73 (3 seasons) . . . early 70s isn't the mid or late 70s or even the 80s (where God forbid we were mostly awful).

70/71 finished 4th (equal 3rd on pts).
71/72 finished 9th (with a runners up in the UEFA Cup Final - Europa League equivalent)
72/73 finished 5th (with semi final appearance in both the League Cup & FA Cup when all teams had a go from the early rounds)

69/70 Wolves were consistently in the top 6 for 2/3s of the season before they fell away to 13th and in 73/74 they were mostly mid-table (finished 12th) but did win a major trophy - the League Cup.

Yes more teams had a chance as the game didn't have so much money concentrated with a handful of clubs who buy up all the best players - talent was more evenly spread across many clubs.

Our current team is better coached, with a far superior keeper and a much sounder defence; the midfield is interesting as Neves and Moutinho are genuine stars but Bailey, McCalliog and Hibbit would consistently score more goals (well the last 2 for sure).

Up front it's again difficult to compare as Richards and Dougan were arguably the best 2 strike force in Europe for close to 2 seasons, supported by the best winger I've ever seen in Wolves colours in Waggy; but then Raul, Jota and finally Traore are bringing something special to the table; but the EARLY 70s team had more goals in them but then they'd concede a few more as well.[/QUOTE

Apologies, just saw 70's and as I was not old enough to have seen that team live I can't comment.

I thought yesterdays first half was fantastic stuff at times. Loved beating that horrible bunch of tossers. Nothing negative about yesterday for me other than us letting them back in . I am enjoying the run in the league and Europe. I am just keeping my feet on the ground

 

[WolfmanOz]

All good mate !

We all agree we have the best Wolves team for most people’s lifetime - which is rather sad that we have to go nearly half a century back to see anything like it before.

Does anyone have a lmk to the disallowed goal? I haven’t seen it yet.

 

[The Bear]

Try this tweet:

https://t.co/dbm3oi8Iiz

 

[SSB]

The officials were very poor yesterday. I’ve sat near some sweary people over the years but a guy behind me topped the list yesterday. He particularly took an instant dislike to the referee and my favourite insult of the day was “ref you’re a dickheaded bastard”

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I should make it clear I was not in Bournemouth

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Hooper did at least pick up on Bournemouth's ultra-cynical fouling. They get away with so much week on week.

He wasn't great but he was 100000% better than East was last season.

 

[AndyWolves]

Hooper did at least pick up on Bournemouth's ultra-cynical fouling. They get away with so much week on week.

He wasn't great but he was 100000% better than East was last season.

He sent Francis off but Billing should have gone too

I'm also glad they didn't get a penalty for a foul outside the box.

As an aside, I reckon a few of their players have moves lined up, certainly Fraser and Callum Wilson

 

[Dinowolf]

Well I watched the Skysports highlights and they didn't even show the disallowed goal for Jota. They spoke about it in the subsequent play, but didn't show it.

 

[PuntsWolf]

You must've missed the Ramsdale saves from Doc, Raul and Jota, the long range strike from Saiss and the ball cleared off the line. The sending off and potential sending off along with the horrific dive from Smith were also moments in the match. This obsession with meaningless stats is frustrating, particularly when used fot confirmation bias.

I couldn't care less where we are on MOTD as I think the programme is shite but saying our game doesn't pass the eye test and we only had set plays is bollocks.

I was probably wrong in the use of the “not much happened” and did use stats as confirmation bias. But that just moves away from my original point, Which still stands, that there is no MOTD hatred of us and n is made on the best interests of the population as a whole factoring in all the things paddy mentioned plus the game.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, when we are shown on MOTD is well towards the bottom on my list of life's priorities.

We played brilliantly in the first half but us knocking the ball about isn't going to be much of a highlights package.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I don't really worry too much about the running order on MOTD.

I much prefer that when I open up BBC Sport on my mobile, I don't need to open up the full Premier League table to see where we are, as the truncated table on the main page shows the top five.

 

[jd1981]

GOS coverage just was appalling tho, just showed the goals, red card and 1 Bournemouth chance. Not even a mention of the offside goal.

 

[PuntsWolf]

GOS coverage just was appalling tho, just showed the goals, red card and 1 Bournemouth chance. Not even a mention of the offside goal.

Lineker always says though, they don’t give controversial incidents much air time if it didn’t change the result.

And it’s petty irrelevant anyway. Cook stops playing and the keeper probably saves it if the ref doesn’t blow his whistle.

 

[jd1981]

Lineker always says though, they don’t give controversial incidents much air time if it didn’t change the result.

And it’s petty irrelevant anyway. Cook stops playing and the keeper probably saves it if the ref doesn’t blow his whistle.

Jota is one on one when the whistle goes so Cook becomes irrelevant, secondly we should have been allowed to at least know whether Ramsdale would have saved it.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Jota is one on one when the whistle goes so Cook becomes irrelevant, secondly we should have been allowed to at least know whether Ramsdale would have saved it.

Possibly. Tight angle with a defender bearing down puts some pressure on though.

We should have had the opportunity to know, but that’s on the ref not GOS.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

Personally I can't even get a tad anxious about this finishing fourth or fifth discussion. As I see it we are about halfway in our development, and learning by the day.
Do i care whether we finish 4th or 5th? Not a jot, to see my team holding their own in Europe and the world's toughest division is all!!!!
And the fact that we are playing entertaining and exciting football, most of the time, is just manna from heaven.
My own big excitement is the kids we have to come.
What nuno has done with Adama is astonishing, what he will do with the kids leaves me salivating. Rock on wolves, wherever you may go, and wherever you go it won't ever drop to the degree of shit that was the Bhattis.

 

[Kenny]

What nuno has done with Adama is astonishing,.

Our 2nd goal yesterday is one that would never have happened last season. You see Mout give Adama a look then looks to where he wants to pass it and Adama is switched on and times his movement perfectly. last season he wouldn't have seen Mout looking at him as he was off the ball, so his head would have down and his brain drifting through Adamadreamland