Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[leedswolf]

Biden instructs the senior US diplomat in the U.K. to issue a demarche, a formal rebuke to Johnsons government, an action that is seldom issued against an ally. Have we any friends in the world, or has Johnson torched every relationship we had?

 

[Kenny]

Don't need friends. Truth is they will all miss us more than we miss them..something about the Queen, something about the War and something in latin to finish that statement off

 

[The Saturday Boy]

On the 15th May2020, Hancock said he “had tried” to put a protective ring around care homes from the beginning. The ambiguity of that statement is what he is now relying on.

From today's committee hearing...

He asks Hancock what he meant when he said previously "we tried to throw a protective ring around our care homes".

The health secretary responds: "I think the most important words in that sentence are that 'we tried to'.

 

[Kenny]

Well at least they tried. Have another +3 points in the polls

 

[Sniffer]

Seems like his evidence and subsequent defence in the inquiry will be.

I don't recall that.
There was conflicting advice.
I said this but that really meant that.
Look over there.
It was me the set the target of 100k tests a day and I delivered it on time (although I won't say that I cheated by included tests in the post)

 

[Derby Wolf]

has he honestly said self isolation payments weren't larger as they didn't want friends to game the system? from the bent bastard who handed public money to his mates on a platter.

the brass neck on the man.

 

[Kenny]

Impressed at where they are holding the G7 meetings this weekend.

Carbis Bay is a tiny place and if someone leaves their wheelie bin sticking out on the road too much traffic just stops. So interesting to know with how they are dealing with the craziness that Joe Biden alone will bring along.

 

[Sniffer]

has he honestly said self isolation payments weren't larger as they didn't want friends to game the system? from the bent bastard who handed public money to his mates on a platter.

the brass neck on the man.

I think that the opinion is common in the Conservative party. I saw a leader of a county council stating that they wanted to stop incentivising people going and getting themselves infected so that they can claim the payment.

 

[BillyDee]

Just look at SSP in this country compared to others. I had to take three weeks off following knee surgery. I took one week as paid leave, because I couldn't afford it otherwise.

 

[The Bear]

It's about £70 a week isn't it? Which is crap.

I'd imagine England does have a very high percentage of workshy bastards claiming fraudulently compared to other European countries though.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Benefit fraud is completely insignificant, the DWP's own errors cost way more than fraud.

 

[lemonjelly]

It's about £70 a week isn't it? Which is crap.

I'd imagine England does have a very high percentage of workshy bastards claiming fraudulently compared to other European countries though.

it really doesn't. In fact, the volume of benefits not claimed is higher than the amount the DWP loses through official error, which in turn is higher than the amount lost through fraud.

Your view is an exceptionally commonly held mis-perception. It's the line trotted out consistently by cameron, osborn, and IDS.

 

[The Bear]

I wasn't suggesting at all it was the reason or jusrificstion, just that in general English people can be more lazy than other countries.

 

[lemonjelly]

but again that's a lazy stereotype. I am of course assuming that you having done a compare and contrast with any other nations, and it'd be very difficult to do. However the mantra that people on benefits are lazy/workshy/scum has been propogated since the 80's, and clearly has some traction, as you're repeating it here. Countless studies have repeatedly shown that benefit underpayments is a bigger issue, and also has greater costs attached to it, and also official error is also a higher cost burden than fraud.
So it is a massive myth.

I think just under 60% of the benefits bill goes on the over 60's. Then around 25% goes on in work benefits.
Once you strip out disability benefits etc, you're talking of a tiny proportion (less than 5% I think) going on the feckless and workshy.

People get irate and wound up about this, but don't mind hancock et al giving contracts to their mates to the value of millions of £. John down the street might be falsley claiming £77 a week JSA. Personally the fact vast rich corporations decline to pay hundreds of thousands, or even millions in appropriate taxes, and then have the brass neck to request subsidies for anything would have a vastly more significant impact on the exchequer if addressed.

 

[lemonjelly]

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...urt-michael-gove-law-cronyism-covid-contracts

There will be real-world effects. Government lawyers and civil servants speak to me of a tug-of-war with ministers over spending. Civil servants want a proper decision-making process, and ministers want to bypass it. When ministers lose legal cases it strengthens the hands of civil servants. By highlighting the risks of poor decision making, it leads to better-quality decisions.

There should also be resignations.

Cummings worked for Boris Johnson. Gove was the defendant. Each is indirectly responsible for Cummings’ actions. What’s more, emails released during the hearing show both Gove and No 10 wanted contracts to go to Public First, too. They also have a direct responsibility for what appears to be a misuse of public money.

We now know neither will resign. And the question of how to deliver accountability to ministers whose response to court rulings is indifference, even contempt, is one I had hoped never to need to answer.

 

[Dublin Drummer Wolf]

Impressed at where they are holding the G7 meetings this weekend.

Carbis Bay is a tiny place and if someone leaves their wheelie bin sticking out on the road too much traffic just stops. So interesting to know with how they are dealing with the craziness that Joe Biden alone will bring along.

They actually mentioned this on Test Match Special earlier as one of the commentators sister in law lives there and she said they are all being helicoptered in. Biden went over her house yesterday

 

[Tony Towner]

Mrs Johnsons former squeeze is saying Mr Johnson is extending restrictions by a month (minimum)

 

[Kenny]

Mrs Johnsons former squeeze is saying Mr Johnson is extending restrictions by a month (minimum)

Well you just ruined my mood and I was about to post this for the lolz

 

[Kenny]

Sun going with dropped for the 21st but will be looked at every 2 weeks, with 5th July the next chance.

If this happens I hope he at least stands on some lego and loses 2 polling points with YouGov

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

What the absolute fuck is two weeks going to do, and on what basis are we doing this?