Another shooting.

[Alan]

Shooter was "a female who appeared to be in her teens", meaning she's likely not old enough to buy a gun in Tennessee, meaning she probably acquired them illegally, meaning this incident will be used as an example of why gun control "doesn't work".

Meanwhile, I can't even go to an event in Uptown without seeing guards posted everywhere, armed with M4s/M16s (I'm no expert; they were big, honkin' automatic rifles, though).

Free-est country in the world, though. Definitely.

 

[Keef]

Come on Alan, now’s not the time to talk about mass shooting, or bring politics into it.
BBC says the shooter was a 28yo female,
3 children,
3 adults killed.
129th mass shooting in the US this year.

 

[Wolf Hunting]

A dramatic shift in U.S. gun culture made the AR-15 a bestseller.​ ​

• The numbers: About 1 in 20 U.S. adults — roughly 16 million people — own at least one AR-15, according to new polling data from The Post and Ipsos.
• How it happened: The industry embraced the gun’s political and cultural significance as a marketing tool after a federal assault weapons ban expired in 2004, a Post investigation found.
• One fatal consequence: Ten of the 17 deadliest U.S. mass killings since 2012 have involved AR-15s.

 

[Alan]

Come on Alan, now’s not the time to talk about mass shooting, or bring politics into it.
BBC says the shooter was a 28yo female,
3 children,
3 adults killed.
129th mass shooting in the US this year.

You're right, I should know better than to politicize these things.

Ugh, even a snarky joke like that feels "too soon".

 

[Alan]

Just youtube comments (which I should know better than to look at), but very disheartening to see “harden our schools” more often than “control our guns”.

 

[jd1981]

Just youtube comments (which I should know better than to look at), but very disheartening to see “harden our schools” more often than “control our guns”.

No doubt most hiding behind their rights under the 2nd amendment.
Absolute least they should be carrying at criminality and MH checks before allowing ownership.
Should seriously limit the amount and size of weapons kept on private premises.

 

[Alan]

The 2nd Amendment is a trump card. Any possible law has to grapple with that.

 

[Keef]

Shooter identified as trans, says the BBC, so as expected the trans haters are out in full force, blaming the hormone supplements for affecting their mental state causing them to kill, NOT EASY ACCESS TO GUNS, no sir, not easy access to guns, it’s the hormone supplements

 

[Alan]

Trans + church school paints a picture for me tbh.

Easy to imagine what they may have struggled with in such an environment growing up.

Ah. Shouldn’t speculate.

But yes, to those people, gun ownership is indeed a fundamental right. So it logically follows that only when society is elsewise perfect, should we consider guns to create any issue in and of themselves.

“Will we blame Toyota for DUIs?”

It’s beyond saving. Just be grateful you aren’t stateside, at least for that. It sucks out here.

/ramble

 

[sycophantia]

It's a 'primary' school, would a child of that age already identify as trans? Forgive my ignorance, I ought to really know this stuff as we have a trans nephew.
Shes 28, a long time to harbour a grudge, there must have been more to it than that, who knows what life she's had since she left that school.
As well as the lack of gun laws there is now an acceptance that the only way to get your feelings of anger across is to go and shoot people. It's a long way back from there but absolutely has to start with stronger gun laws and education, not sure the will is there in America.

 

[Johnny75]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1640392343089184768

 

[Derby Wolf]

I'm surprised Yankee hasn't been all up in this thread defending the indefensible.

Saw on Twitter that #sidedoor was trending, because the shooter accessed the school through an unlocked side door so the propaganda machine is already swinging into action blaming the school not the gun/shooter for the crime.

 

[Paul]

The video I saw they shot the glass door and climbed in?

 

[Alan]

The video I saw they shot the glass door and climbed in?

Lots of “too soon” reporting around this one.

 

[Alan]

It's a 'primary' school, would a child of that age already identify as trans? Forgive my ignorance, I ought to really know this stuff as we have a trans nephew.
Shes 28, a long time to harbour a grudge, there must have been more to it than that, who knows what life she's had since she left that school.
As well as the lack of gun laws there is now an acceptance that the only way to get your feelings of anger across is to go and shoot people. It's a long way back from there but absolutely has to start with stronger gun laws and education, not sure the will is there in America.

First point: I imagine it’s like if you’re young and scared of thunder/lightning; your parents tell you everything is safe but you can’t shake the feeling that something isn’t right. Maybe you don’t have the exact language to describe what you’re feeling, but you know it’s there. Tie that feeling to your sexual identity, have it challenged or rebuked by the authority figures in your life, and I can easily imagine lasting trauma coming from that.

Worth noting that the above is armchair sociology; whatever I think of the male form generally I’m not very interested in male genitalia so I’m still speaking from a place of privilege. Ultimately I’m still CIS, just a flowery one.

On your second point, I think you’re right. Americans in general would rather meet violence with violence, it seems.

 

[UKYankieWWFC]

I'm surprised Yankee hasn't been all up in this thread defending the indefensible.

Saw on Twitter that #sidedoor was trending, because the shooter accessed the school through an unlocked side door so the propaganda machine is already swinging into action blaming the school not the gun/shooter for the crime.

Maybe I need a name change, so there is no confusion

 

[Johnny75]

CIS is such a fucking awful term. Fuck that right off.

 

[Alan]

CIS is such a fucking awful term. Fuck that right off.

It’s borrowed from molecular chemistry. It wasn’t something that someone pulled out of their ass tbf.

 

[darlowolf64]

but I wasn't "assigned" by anyone, I was born this way. Why does there have to be a label for who and what I am?

 

[Alan]

but I wasn't "assigned" by anyone, I was born this way. Why does there have to be a label for who and what I am?

You have the right as an individual to identify or not identify as something. You control your identity, not me nor anyone else.

Just because I use the term to describe myself doesn’t make it an absolute rule for every guy out there who was born male and is interested in ladies.