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Wolves 1-4 Manchester United: Verdict Thread

Hard to believe we have accumulated so many poor players but poor is probably overrating them.
Bellegarde was genuinely good till he gave the ball away that lead to the second, injuring himself in the process.
Krejci clearly not fit, his worst game after probably being our best player most of the season.
Thought Wolfe was ok, everyone else various shades of shit. Lopez actually seemed to improve us without doing anything special.
Dont think Tolu actually got a pass so still no idea if he could be any good. I genuinely think we might not win a game, not even gallows humour.
 
Arias is fuckin shite.
You look back at the wonderful Wolves Archive and watch the 90s videos...Steve Corica, universally and correctly lambasted for being an ineffectual coward, contributed LOADS more than Jhon "can't spell his own name properly" Arias will ever do in a gold shirt.
 
It's not a "oh what can we do" situation, Leeds are running at a point a game and they are a shit team.

We've actively given ourselves no chance by dismantling the squad year on year.
Me and my lad were discussing who in the league we have a chance of beating. Best I could come up with is somehow scamming a win against Burnley. Leeds are shit but have more fight that us. Everyone else is better than us by some margin.
 
Arias is fuckin shite.
He is new, and in attack are full alone, not is tipical player to that lineup...

Its a 10 on a 4-2-3-1 bit many player around he.... FerLo have the same problem, need many player around he, by that all time he run to down, to find passes, and get time...

Usually on Celta Ferlo play running to up, never to down, but in Wolves only have the option to pass to Larsen, marked by 2, or to other wing.
 
For us to win someone has to be way off it and we need some luck and have every player playing at 9/10.
To many things have to occur at the same time for us to win. All 3 above have to occur otherwise at best we’ll get a draw.
 
You look back at the wonderful Wolves Archive and watch the 90s videos...Steve Corica, universally and correctly lambasted for being an ineffectual coward, contributed LOADS more than Jhon "can't spell his own name properly" Arias will ever do in a gold shirt.
Yeah. I thought he was a potential bright spot following Villa, but the last two games have been astonishingly bad. Too bad to ever improve here in this context. He’ll have to go.
 
We will get beat by everyone. Hoever and Mosquera can’t even stand in the right place FFS. Just have to kick the ball down that side of the pitch and you’re in on goal. We’ve got a bunch of soccer aid player sprinkled with cowards and triers below the required standard.
 
Forgot to say, Andre was one of our worst players tonight, apart from the first goal, he was consistantly giving the ball away and spent most of the night trying to pick up a yellow so he could miss the next game, he couldnt even do that properly, he can fuck off an all.
 
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It’s a humiliation admitting you’re a wolves fan now.
This isn’t Football manager when you can just close the laptop. This is happening to us and it’s fucking horrible, you can’t ignore it if you can then I’d question if you really care that much.
We’re going to break loads of bad records here.
About 7-8 good minutes before halftime we’ve time but the rest was an absolute shambles. That second half was cowardly, all went hiding when Man Utd stepped it up a bit.
Their xG was 4.1 and ours was 0.38 about right and tells you how far off we’re.
RE is another GON type just GON had Neto, Cunha, RAN etc to dig him out a hole.
JRB is our best player and in reality should only be playing as back up and league cup games in a bottom half PL side.
They don’t even work that hard in games, playing it safe all the time.
They probably all work hard in training and look better but go to pot when it matters.
The biggest most of us have seen us lose is 6-0 I think that’s in serious jeopardy of being broken Saturday.
JRB is not our best player.
He had a reasonable game first half, scored an instinctive goal.
Second half his poor control resulted in a goal against and an injury to himself.
O'Neil didn't have Agbadou, Kreji, Moller-Wolfe, Tchatchoua, Mosquera (mostly).
We've had all of these since and defensively we're stil absolutely shocking. Not only are we letting in goals for fun, we can't even create any at the other end.
You can't write Rob Edwards off after 3 games when he's inherited a bunch of low sklil, low football intelligence players, with losing mentalities and I'd say in some cases bad attitudes.
 
Bellegarde aside they were all absolutely awful. I’m sure losing continually takes its toll but I’ve seen nothing improve under Edwards, not even the slightest glimmer of a green shoot. We all know the players are not good enough to avoid relegation but currently they’re on target for five points over the whole season. If things don’t improve we’d be better off with a new manager and a largely new squad next season.

In the opening post Deutsch makes the valid point that a back five isn’t working. A move to a back four I would have the benefit of the CHs having to do their job rather than relying on others to do it. Obviously it won’t happen at Arsenal where we’ll stick with a back five and hope we can keep the scoreline in single figures.
 
Mosquera ain’t fit to lace Doherty’s boots. If he spent as much time concentrating on his defending as he does trying to he some shit hard man then he might make a career in the bottom half of the championship.
 
Forgot to say, Andre was one of our worst players tonight, apart from the first goal, he was consistantly giving the ball away and spent most of the night trying to pick up a yellow so he could miss the next game, he couldnt even do that properly, he can fuck an all.

If Brazil have watched even ten minutes of Andre and Gomes this season, neither of them will be anywhere near that World Cup squad.

And at a time where Brazil are probably as weak as I can remember.

It doesn’t help that they’re playing with such shit around them, but both have fallen off a cliff in terms of individual performance.
 
Weird evening. Not sure the protests/turning up late will ultimately do anything, but what else can the fans do? Fair play to those involved and for doing something. Fosun will slowly but surely be getting the message. The problem is, the person overseeing it all is so delusional in terms of his own ability, that nothing will change until they eventually sell us. I don’t see Guo sacking Jeff, but Christ, he needs to. Again - not that it changes anything on the pitch, because we are more relegated than any side I’ve ever seen at this point of the season - but it’s beyond evident at this point that Jeff Shi is not capable of doing his job.

Odd window coming up, because we are clearly at a planning point for the Championship - but we need to sell/gut the majority of the squad before a proper rebuild can take place & we can’t do that half way through a season.

Please - let’s have silence from the players etc. We don’t want your stupid, shit, empty apologies.
 
JRB is not our best player.
He had a reasonable game first half, scored an instinctive goal.
Second half his poor control resulted in a goal against and an injury to himself.
O'Neil didn't have Agbadou, Kreji, Moller-Wolfe, Tchatchoua, Mosquera (mostly).
We've had all of these since and defensively we're stil absolutely shocking. Not only are we letting in goals for fun, we can't even create any at the other end.
You can't write Rob Edwards off after 3 games when he's inherited a bunch of low sklil, low football intelligence players, with losing mentalities and I'd say in some cases bad attitudes.

Ok I’ll re-word it he’s our best performing player.
On RE he’s had 4 games and made us a negligible attack force whilst conceding at over 2 goals a game by playing his flat back 5 thinking numbers solves the defensive problems.
 
we need to sell/gut the majority of the squad before a proper rebuild can take place

I know this never happens but we literally need to get rid of the lot.

Not just about ability; make no mistake, we're getting humped and thoroughly outclassed week after week relentlessly by all other 19 teams for the next four and a half months. The player's heads will be fucking spaghetti by then, I don't want any of the cunts lining up for us next August
 
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