Wolves 1-1 Sunderland 02/05 Verdict thread

[pagey]

Dyche hasn't managed in the Championship for an entire decade. For all that time he's been largely trying to shithouse enough points to stay up (and forget style), getting sacked for failing to do so and/or being so bad to watch that the ends don't justify the means, or unemployed. It's a no from me, he'll have forgotten how to build the kind of team we need.

Remember Forest recently sacked him to employ the bloke we sacked for having 2 points from 10 games.

Fair enough mate, probably the poretti going into overdrive.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's so hard to tell at that level as managers so frequently look quite good then fade seriously quickly.

Look at Mark Robins, built a great platform at Cov, fair enough couldn't quite get them over the line. But should be good in his next job, right?

Or join the never-ending managerial void that is Stoke City and finish 17th.

I doubt we have the appetite to pay for another manager so soon, so if we do sack the £4m man then I would imagine it would be someone out of work. You might get lucky and nab someone good who just happens to be available but on the balance of probabilities...

 

[Tuco]

Bin him off, give Dyche a 3 year deal and back him in the window, wont be total football, but i reckon he'd get us up and consolidate

Fair play for trying to lighten the mood like, but I don’t think most fans are in the mood.

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2050718059187306636

 

[Lycan]

Why is it even a debate?

If you're upset about players getting sent off for pulling hair you need to reassess your priorities.

 

[Lycan]

Btw If there's anyone reading this who applauded those cunts off the pitch yesterday, I'd love to know your reasoning. Why? Fucking why?

Genuinely blew my mind that people were giving that fleet of cunts a standing ovation for that pathetic performance yesterday. I have no idea what goes through some of our fans minds, honestly.

 

[PuntsWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2050718059187306636

This one looks Accidental whereas the Michael Keane one looked silly. Much like elbows, you get sent off for the deliberate elbow whereas the clumsy elbow you get a yellow card (if the ref even saw it as VAR can’t intervene). This definitely falls in the clumsy category for me.

 

[basher]

Btw If there's anyone reading this who applauded those cunts off the pitch yesterday, I'd love to know your reasoning. Why? Fucking why?

Genuinely blew my mind that people were giving that fleet of cunts a standing ovation for that pathetic performance yesterday. I have no idea what goes through some of our fans minds, honestly.

It's akin to a cult for some isn't it... they'll never say a bad word about the club... they have a strange worldview of what it means to be a supporter and will go along with anything rather than criticize as they feel that's what a REAL supporter does.

You'll see it all the time with statements like "we need to get behind the team... he's here now, I don't like it but he'll get my support..." and so on...

 

[jd1981]

This group have broken just about every bad club record that’s possible. Need 7 points to avoid being the worst PPG in a season side. Got 2 chances left to avoid going a whole season without an away win.
They possess all the charisma of a modern footballer which is none at all but don’t have the quality to compensate.
The manager is a gaslighting prick whose glass ceiling was Luton.
Let’s be honest RE is definitely losing that again against 11 men.
16 points from 24 games, he’s just not the bloke who is going to be good enough to turn this mess around.
The fans have already started showing that he’s already under pressure before next season. He’s ending the season in hideous fashion basically gone full circle to when he arrived.
Those left clapping are clearly well support you ever more brigade who haven’t got a clue what they’re watching is garbage.

 

[Lupo]

We stayed to the bitter end as we always do but like fuck did I applaud those wankers. Most of us hardly celebrated the goal, the majority of us didn't even stand up. Never seen such a collective of shit representing the club 'managed' by a bland non-entity head coach. Fuck this season

 

[Jinky]

I remember being at Molineux and giving our team under Mick a standing ovation after we lost 0-6 to Southampton. That’s because we had likeable players, a top bloke in charge and despite the result, it was obvious they’d given their all.

This current batch is a million miles away from them. More fool anyone left applauding at the end yesterday.

 

[Kenny]

Up there with the boring Hoddle era

Remember scoring v Crewe to level up and hardly anyone in the South Bank celebrated.

 

[Tony Towner]

For people of my age, being at Chorley was the thing - I wasn't.

For those a decade or so younger it's being at that Southampton game. Spiers was wanging on about it this week too.

 

[YoungWolf]

The second half of KJ’s last season was really depressing too. Just a club drifting. This is similar but obviously more neglectful and particularly bad because of how much they’ve taken the fans for granted and even rubbed our faces in it at times

 

[Tony Towner]

Up there with the boring Hoddle era

Remember scoring v Crewe to level up and hardly anyone in the South Bank celebrated.

Times I've given up my season ticket since the late 80s
1994/5 travelling, got one the following year
1997/8 wedding to pay for, got one the following year
2006/7 Hoddle looked like he was staying and I didn't want to go. Got one the following year
2013/4 started taking my son in the family enclosure so paying game by game when a membership also got you something was easier, got one a couple of years later in the NB
2024/5 Jeff

Hoddle is the only time I've not bought one because of the football.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I remember us scraping a draw against long since relegated Norwich at the end of Lage's first season (should have lost 5-1) and I didn't celebrate our goal.

Edwards is nowhere near as much of a wanker as Lage but his football is as bad (with the caveat that he has far worse players).

 

[Jinky]

For people of my age, being at Chorley was the thing - I wasn't.

For those a decade or so younger it's being at that Southampton game. Spiers was wanging on about ot this week too.

God forbid people reminisce about the past and their memories of watching Wolves.

It was Spiers mentioning it in his podcast this week that brought the comparison to mind.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

As ever though Spiers has it wrong. They weren't clapped off because of undying loyalty from the fans towards that group of players, it was because we genuinely played (but not defended) quite well over the 90 minutes. Fans can tell, the reaction is never binary based purely on the score.

And thousands of people left early anyway, a myth to suggest they didn't. Doubt there were 15k home fans in there at full time.

 

[Kenny]

The second half of KJ’s last season was really depressing too. Just a club drifting. This is similar but obviously more neglectful and particularly bad because of how much they’ve taken the fans for granted and even rubbed our faces in it at times

That at least had a reason for dull, shite football even f we only know after the event - the club is being sold, do not, repeat DO NOT get us relegated and out that at risk.

 

[Mel Evo]

As ever though Spiers has it wrong. They weren't clapped off because of undying loyalty from the fans towards that group of players, it was because we genuinely played (but not defended) quite well over the 90 minutes. Fans can tell, the reaction is never binary based purely on the score.

And thousands of people left early anyway, a myth to suggest they didn't. Doubt there were 15k home fans in there at full time.

Spiers can’t be on here as, if he was true to his convictions, there would be a tick on the poll for Rob Edwards staying. Which would be the only one so far. And looks like an increasingly crackers view point. Unless you’re letting him off on the ‘well now that the fans have turned [idiots that they are] he will unfortunately have to go’. I don’t - I demand he sticks to his guns and defends it, just as it looks more and more laughable.

In return I’m more than happy to commit now to still wanting ‘Rob’ gone in the scenario that we get some good results and performances in the next few games. Yep, pretty comfortable about that deal.