Wolves 0-1 Liverpool: Verdict Thread

[AndyWolves]

Sa without the brain farts is a top 3/4 keeper. He wouldn't be playing for us

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He's absolutely nowhere near Ederson/Alisson/Mendy, come on now. Let's be real.

 

[YoungWolf]

Of course not, but he’s still a good keeper. I like how proactive he is. Potential to do stuff mad, but I enjoy it. Very different style to Rui. But suits what Bruno is eventually trying to get to

 

[Wilf Wolf]

He's absolutely nowhere near Ederson/Alisson/Mendy, come on now. Let's be real.

Mendy has plenty of brain farts. Penalty yesterday and got away with a massive howler against MU. Given his workload is significantly lower than Sa’s he’s not doing too well.

 

[Johnny75]

Thought Sa was very good yesterday. I like him.

I do too. He's made two really good saves yesterday and his distribution was excellent.

He's very similar to Ederson and Alisson in that he always has a rick in him with a rush of blood to the head. Ramsdale, Schmeichel, Mendy, Pickford and De Gea have all dropped bollocks this season too. Mendy's yesterday was horrific.

I don't think he's any worse than any other keeper in the PL and better than quite a few.

 

[Tony Towner]

Not sure Deutsch why you are so keen to die on this Sa hill.

 

[Johnny75]

He's absolutely nowhere near Ederson/Alisson/Mendy, come on now. Let's be real.

I'm not sure he's too far behind any of them.

 

[19th Holer]

If he carries on with a brain fart every game, allied to our inability to score goals, he could be a problem for us. It's OK making good saves and decent distribution but if you're serving a gilt edge chance to the opposition every game it more than cancels that out.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Not sure Deutsch why you are so keen to die on this Sa hill.

Not keen at all but he's nothing like what people are suggesting. We've played 15 games, conceded 13 and he's objectively at fault for at least 3, maybe 4 (in fact Lycan blames him for Everton's goal too but I wouldn't go that far). He doesn't make loads of saves, we don't concede many because Kilman, Coady and (to a lesser extent) Saiss have been excellent. He's had numerous games where he's had as good as nothing to do.

He's ok, but he's worth about what we paid. Which is way below what you'd expect a top half PL keeper to cost....so we don't really have a top half PL keeper. We have a bit of an oddball whose flaws we can mask as we have decent defenders and we fundamentally set up not to lose more than anything.

 

[Johnny75]

If he carries on with a brain fart every game, allied to our inability to score goals, he could be a problem for us. It's OK making good saves and decent distribution but if you're serving a gilt edge chance to the opposition every game it more than cancels that out.

He not, 1 goal conceded in 3 games.

 

[19th Holer]

He not, 1 goal conceded in 3 games.

Jota should have scored, absolute sitter. No thanks to Sa that he didn't.

 

[Tony Towner]

Not keen at all but he's nothing like what people are suggesting. We've played 15 games, conceded 13 and he's objectively at fault for at least 3, maybe 4 (in fact Lycan blames him for Everton's goal too but I wouldn't go that far). He doesn't make loads of saves, we don't concede many because Kilman, Coady and (to a lesser extent) Saiss have been excellent. He's had numerous games where he's had as good as nothing to do.

He's ok, but he's worth about what we paid. Which is way below what you'd expect a top half PL keeper to cost....so we don't really have a top half PL keeper. We have a bit of an oddball whose flaws we can mask as we have decent defenders and we fundamentally set up not to lose more than anything.

I would argue with the 3/4 goals. I'd probably put it as 1 and 2 1/2's so call it 2. Appreciate there's been a couple of get out of jail moments like yesterday's, but surely you can see his anticipation on the edge of the box has saved numerous opportunities and we are the only PL side not to have conceded directly from a corner this season - he's played a significant part in that, along with ditching the zonal crap

 

[Johnny75]

Jota should have scored, absolute sitter. No thanks to Sa that he didn't.

1) It was a foul by Jota as he pushed Saiss into Sa
2) They didn’t score.

 

[YoungWolf]

I would argue with the 3/4 goals. I'd probably put it as 1 and 2 1/2's so call it 2. Appreciate there's been a couple of get out of jail moments like yesterday's, but surely you can see his anticipation on the edge of the box has saved numerous opportunities and we are the only PL side not to have conceded directly from a corner this season - he's played a significant part in that, along with ditching the zonal crap

How we defend corners so far has been really interesting and actually quite enjoyable. So rare teams leave two players up at corners nowadays!

 

[Charlie Wolf]

How we defend corners so far has been really interesting and actually quite enjoyable. So rare teams leave two players up at corners nowadays!

I like how we are positioning RAN also for corners. Cuts off the short corner option and also creates an outlet

 

[sycophantia]

Haven’t seen it again but didn’t Jota push Saiss into Sa? He also was a massive reason it was 0-0 after 93

Yes he did, my lad has been ranting about this for 3 days

 

[Aikiwolf]

Yes he did, my lad has been ranting about this for 3 days

No more than when Adama "pushed" VVD and passed to Hwang who decided to neither shoot or pass to the man in space.

 

[sycophantia]

No more than when Adama "pushed" VVD and passed to Hwang who decided to neither shoot or pass to the man in space.

Yes but it doesn't count when we do it to them

 

[Johnny75]

No more than when Adama "pushed" VVD and passed to Hwang who decided to neither shoot or pass to the man in space.

That was appalling from Hwang but it wasn't a foul by Adama.

Jota's was a clear push in the back and right in front of us.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Watching the goal back, it really isn't great from Sa. Never sets himself at all and it's a fairly routine situation, a cut back from the byline. His footwork is all over the place, gives himself no chance.

Of course Hoever is mostly at fault, he gave the ball away, he didn't cover his zone properly.