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Welcome to Wolves Vitor Pereira

Don't disagree, but managers are paid to make hard decisions.

What do you want me to say? That Solskjaer can get fucked, too? He can, all the way to Hell and back again. And then some more.

I find the practice of ear-cropping to be gross as shit, and it's bad for the dog without question. I would still suggest there is a difference between that and using a feline as a fucking hacky-sack.
Just found it interesting that you've had this opinion on Moyes for quite a while and voiced it multiple times yet other animal cruelty related incidents have gone completely under the radar. There's a lot of shades of grey in the offences in terms of players directly inflicting abuse or instructing/arranging abuse but your take on the managers associated was very all or nothing. Would've thought for a topic you seem pretty passionate about regarding Moyes and Zouma it would've prompted more of an opinion on similar cases elsewhere.
 
I genuinely couldn’t name a single other instance aside from Sá. Suffice to say I’m no fan of his for doing that.

Too far removed from the 24/7 PL news cycle I guess.

To be clear, I don’t want Moyes exiled from management altogether. Just wouldn’t be happy at all if he were here.
 
Yeah but Alan if you don’t start a thread asap tracking all football manager/player animal cruelty you are a hypocrite okay
 
Ear clipping, like tail docking, is illegal in the UK but that hasn't always been the case. Certainly as far as tail docking.

In both cases though the primary driver is an aesthetic, whether you agree with it or not. For the record I don't, it's mutilation and is not benefiting the dog in anyway shape or form.

What Zouma did though was very much an act of animal cruelty for which he was convicted. I'm not too sure what Moyes could have done differently, other than never selecting Zouma ever again? But that was never going to happen and Moyes said his piece on the incident at the time.
 
Yeah but Alan if you don’t start a thread asap tracking all football manager/player animal cruelty you are a hypocrite okay
If you’re not mad at everyone you can’t be mad at anyone innit
 
I get your point, Mark, but I only have room for so many grudges.
 
Hobbs had the belief that he would somehow turn it around and Jeff wanted a Potter or a Moyes...but found out they come with a price tag so eventually had to make that call to Jorge again.
I pricetag and an unwillingness to work under a cunt.
 
I’m pleased we’ve got a proper manager now rather than that joker but I can’t really warm to the guy for some reason.

Maybe it’s because I just don’t see him as a long term solution.
I'm not convinced he'll be here in August even if he does guide us to safety (which I think he will).

I just have a feeling he's been misled like JL was. Jeff Shi(t) can't be trusted.
 
Last manager i really liked it still haven't got over him leaving.

Not doing that again so as long as Vitor keeps us up i will admire him but from a safe distance and when he goes, it won't hurt.

It's been good of Jeff to install managers since Nuno that are hard to love. Clearly done to protect us all, mentally...
I've never hurt so much as a football fan as when I heard the Nuno news. I was absolutely gutted.

It felt like the end of an era and a very stupid thing to do, and so it's proved. Fuck off Shi, I fucking hate you.
 
With every game that passes, I have to say I am more impressed with Vitor - but I'm also keeping a lid on it because it wasn't that long ago since the Newcastle/Forest drubbings etc - but I do feel like he is actually learning with each game that passes, and it's very obvious that he's an actual football manager, compared to Gaz. Few points:

- Doc appears to be Vitor's version of Nuno with Coady. I.e. he's come in, seen something within Doc's attributes that he feels might work in a role he's never really played before, and whilst I don't think any of us truly believe it's a long term solution, we're getting some consistency from Doc which many of us didn't think he had in him. Very similar to where most of us were with Coady, pre; Nuno.

- The vast improvement in many of the playing squad. Whist not taking the credit away from the players themselves, the improvement in the likes of Bellegarde, Andre, the aforementioned Doc - having an actual plan in terms of how to use those players. Making them feel wanted and actually using them in roles that they suit.

- early changes. How many times have we been sat here screaming for changes & we've had a manager who just waits & waits & waits until we inevitably concede. So refreshing to have someone who utilises the squad and has trust in his players. Taking Joao off at half time this past weekend is a prime example. It shows Vitor learned from the red against Arsenal last month.

- Asking for the signing of players that fit his system and using them how he intended - Hi Marshall.

I'm taking a little longer to warm to him from a personality point of view, compared to Nuno (lets be fair, no one can compare to Nuno!) - but I'm really liking what I see from him on a game by game basis. From where we were under Gaz, it's night and day. Would be interesting to see where he can take us with a full season and some continued backing, but the old concerns around Jeff Shi etc won't go away on that front.
 
With every game that passes, I have to say I am more impressed with Vitor - but I'm also keeping a lid on it because it wasn't that long ago since the Newcastle/Forest drubbings etc
Easy to forget but we missed a ton of chances in that Forest game and they were chances we should be scoring from. Should not have been 0-2 at HT.
We also get a reminder that he was still learning about his players. He put Doyle in and quickly removed him from his thinking of playing him in a 2 man midfield. Lima came in and he then knew what he needed to work on.
He was probably too vocal in pointing that out, but that's who he is.

When the time comes, where things are going wrong, he is going to send some people in to a breakdown when he properly starts throwing people under the bus.
 
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