Welcome to Wolves - Jean-Ricner Bellegarde

[Kenny]

Is 25 young?

Is to me

 

[Wolvensam]

Is 25 young?

I mean, I’d love to be 25

 

[Johnny75]

Why? I mean, he's obviously got his coaching licences etc, so he must have some understanding of the game. And it's clear when you hear him speak that he's not a gibbering moron, so I don't understand this assumption.

Having a coaching licenses isn't a guarantee of ability.

Plenty of ex-pros with coaching licenses who aren't anywhere near as good as non ex-pros

The system is corrupt.

There's also plenty of coaches who aren't good enough to be at PL level and plenty who shouldn't be anywhere near a managerial role.

 

[Del Woppio]

Why? I mean, he's obviously got his coaching licences etc, so he must have some understanding of the game. And it's clear when you hear him speak that he's not a gibbering moron, so I don't understand this assumption.

It's not an assumption, it's based on the evidence in front of us, which is how his Bournemouth side played. It's the literal opposite of an assumption

 

[WsWolf]

It's not an assumption, it's based on the evidence in front of us, which is how his Bournemouth side played. It's the literal opposite of an assumption

Not sure how we played against Everton but the style hasn't looked remotely similar to that this year to me. Maybe when he has Sasa back fully we'll start going direct.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Having a coaching licenses isn't a guarantee of ability.

Plenty of ex-pros with coaching licenses who aren't anywhere near as good as non ex-pros

The system is corrupt.

There's also plenty of coaches who aren't good enough to be at PL level and plenty who shouldn't be anywhere near a managerial role.

I get that. However, that's a big leap to say he can't coach attacking play. We will see I suppose, but he certainly doesn't come over as stupid and incompetent.

It's not an assumption, it's based on the evidence in front of us, which is how his Bournemouth side played. It's the literal opposite of an assumption

Okay. I guess we shall see.

 

[prawnking]

When your club makes a cheap punt on a manager or player it's surely wise to just assume they'll be mediocre at best and wait for actual evidence before making any greater claims?

 

[MARKakaJIM]

When your club makes a cheap punt on a manager or player it's surely wise to just assume they'll be mediocre at best and wait for actual evidence before making any greater claims?

Or you could just wait and see? What benefit is there in assuming it'll be wank until proven wrong?

 

[Kenny]

When your club makes a cheap punt on a manager or player it's surely wise to just assume they'll be mediocre at best and wait for actual evidence before making any greater claims?

Or just don't assume anything and let it play out. Expecting poor just makes it easier to have a go for the smallest thing.
I know we can't do that as it works the other way, sign a player for £50m and expect the best and then get annoyed when they turn to be a bit over priced.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

lads that's brilliant, we got about six welcome posts in before the GON arguments took over.
Come on you TWF boys, you noble citizens who don't live to be mr angry, buck your ideas up and lets gird our loins, and get at least the first page of a thread that relates to the title before the TWF warriors take over.
Together, for TWF and sanity!

 

[prawnking]

Where did I say poor or 'wank'?

I said mediocre.

I expected Lop to eventually get Nunoesque results and status with us. Why would I expect that from a novice manager clearly brought in mainly to be a less dominant and more pliable club figure than his predecessor?

We're talking about successfully managing in the PL, it's literally pretty much the peak of the profession, and by definition an elite job.

Why would I assume someone like GON will come in and kill it? It's more likely he'll be OK at best, isn't it?

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Where did I say poor or 'wank'?

I said mediocre.

I expected Lop to eventually get Nunoesque results and status with us. Why would I expect that from a novice manager clearly brought in mainly to be a less dominant and more pliable club figure than his predecessor?

We're talking about successfully managing in the PL, it's literally pretty much the peak of the profession, and by definition an elite job.

Why would I assume someone like GON will come in and kill it? It's more likely he'll be OK at best, isn't it?

People are telling you not to assume anything, neutrality is an option.

 

[prawnking]

People are telling you not to assume anything, neutrality is an option.

An option you and Kenny haven't chosen, otherwise you'd also be lecturing Dire Wolf?

I'd say at this stage assuming GON is mediocre at best is perfectly reasonable, and anyone making greater claims should provide greater evidence/thinking

 

[MARKakaJIM]

An option you and Kenny haven't chosen, otherwise you'd also be lecturing Dire Wolf?

I'd say at this stage assuming GON is mediocre at best is perfectly reasonable, and anyone making greater claims should provide greater evidence/thinking

Well at least mediocre is a small step closer to neutrality than your opening stance.

 

[Kenny]

An option you and Kenny haven't chosen, otherwise you'd also be lecturing Dire Wolf?

I haven't chosen...I just said we should but know its basically impossible

 

[prawnking]

Well at least mediocre is a small step closer to neutrality than your opening stance.

What's so great about being the football fan equivalent of Switzerland anyway?

Why would I be neutral about the team I support? I have expectations and can explain why. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

What's so great about being the football fan equivalent of Switzerland anyway?

Why would I be neutral about the team I support? I have expectations and can explain why. Nothing wrong with that.

Just seems like you're making yourself miserable with the negative tilt to your judgement, what's so great about that?

 

[prawnking]

I'm probably one of the least miserable people you'd ever meet.

People shouldn't mistake forum opinions for real life

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I'm probably one of the least miserable people you'd ever meet.

People shouldn't mistake forum opinions for real life

So you're sitting there happy as Larry typing negative thoughts? Seems odd.

 

[Kenny]

Standard Wolves fan behaviour