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VAR Stay or Go

VAR Stay or Go

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Alan said:
How many non-Wolves’ supporters under the age of 40 even know what Honved is?
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Should have been at the stadium reopening game after its revamp in the mid 90s. Wolves v Honved
 
Sniffer said:
Should have been at the stadium reopening game after its revamp in the mid 90s. Wolves v Honved
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With quite a few of the legends from both sides, including Billy Wright, in attendance that night. All sadly no longer with us
 
Lupo said:
With quite a few of the legends from both sides, including Billy Wright, in attendance that night. All sadly no longer with us
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The two games were 39 years apart, we are now nearly 31 from the latter, which makes us all feel old I'd imagine
 
We were discussing this tonight after the god awful non Penalty Decision against Newcastle.

I never liked poor ref calls, but having Reffed and run the line, I always appreciated someone having 1 view at full speed from 20 yards away and making the incorrect calls.

I wanted VAR in I thought it would level the playing field, it's just highlighted how much Corruption there is in English Football.

It serves no purpose, and there is no excuse for someone sitting in a room, watching the incident from 10 different angles at super Slo Mo, and still not seeing a blatant Foul.

Get fucking rid and launch an investigation into Corruption of Football
 
I fully supported VAR to get rid of diving in particular and they use it to do the opposite. How can they give the Newcastle pen v us on no contact and not give theirs tonight (karma at least). Then a foul against Cunha for a mild flail that missed yet condone Pogba’s potential leg breaker on Neves a couple seasons back. It’s incompetence, that won’t go away, but I’d say bin it until the pricks can use it a lot better than currently. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two forward.
 
Bin - absolutely! But I wouldn't be against experimenting with extra on field officials

Maybe 4 linos - one side stays in line with the last defender, the second runs up and down with play as normal
 
Semi automated offside, with maybe a 10cm rule rather than a toenail, and the pitchside screen available to ref for a replay, but other than that, bin it!
 
nimrod said:
I fully supported VAR to get rid of diving in particular and they use it to do the opposite. How can they give the Newcastle pen v us on no contact and not give theirs tonight (karma at least). Then a foul against Cunha for a mild flail that missed yet condone Pogba’s potential leg breaker on Neves a couple seasons back. It’s incompetence, that won’t go away, but I’d say bin it until the pricks can use it a lot better than currently. Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two forward.
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Agree with this.

Semi-automated offsides need to be brought in but otherwise the PGMOL have completely ruined this and it is they who should be binned and replaced with better. The VAR process should be independent and have clear guidelines like they do in rugby

What people don't realise is by binning VAR they have given complete power back to cunts like Atwell without any recourse.

And if it is binned the next cunt who complains they didn't get a decision can fuck the fuck off.
 
I think its a bit of a distraction exercise from the club. Crap end to the season, season ticket prices yet to be announced but we'll throw this out and get huge exposure for the club for the decisions that went against us this season.. It is widely accepted that we've been on the wrong end of a number of crap decisions this season but if my memory is correct, without VAR we'd be 3 points better off (Fulham/West Ham/Bournemouth). With a functioning centre forward when injuries struck I'd have hoped we would have been better off than that.

Crap VAR - 3 points
Crap Recruitment - (?)

Jeff and Fosun cost us far more this season.

Heard Matt Jarvis on the radio earlier and he was poor with his reasoning behind why it should be scrapped talking about offsides etc when it is due to be automated anyway and the vast majority of fans accept those decisions anyway. Its the subjective crap that gets everyone's goat up.
 
The only thing that I would applaud the club for is that it is correct in highlighting that it does spoil the experience for the match attending fans. The posts elsewhere mentioning the kickback articles from those on the payroll of Murdoch do highlight that the powers that be will want to protect the revenue streams from TV Companies and subscribers which are billions higher than the match going supporter.
 
Johnny75 said:
And if it is binned the next cunt who complains they didn't get a decision can fuck the fuck off.
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I will moan like a little bitch BUT would much rather moan about a ref or linesman making a shit call than moan about 2 or 3 others joining in, watching clips of the incident for minutes and then a shit call.

The last season before VAR, a lot of games we would be saying "if we had VAR that would have been given or disallowed etc" turns out all we created is a bigger way to fuck things up.

Automated offsides are fine, would still need the group of them to get their heads together to disallow the KIlman goal though.

I don't think it will go though, the automated offsides will help for a bit but it will still be shit like "didn't headbutt him hard enough" "Yeah thats a foul but lets talk for 3 mins to find ways to say it wasn't actually"
 
Kenny said:
I will moan like a little bitch BUT would much rather moan about a ref or linesman making a shit call than moan about 2 or 3 others joining in, watching clips of the incident for minutes and then a shit call.

The last season before VAR, a lot of games we would be saying "if we had VAR that would have been given or disallowed etc" turns out all we created is a bigger way to fuck things up.

Automated offsides are fine, would still need the group of them to get their heads together to disallow the KIlman goal though.

I don't think it will go though, the automated offsides will help for a bit but it will still be shit like "didn't headbutt him hard enough" "Yeah thats a foul but lets talk for 3 mins to find ways to say it wasn't actually"
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You want to go back to shit refs having all the power then that's up to you but you reap what you sow.

I get that VAR in it's current incarnation and guidelines isn't good enough but tinfoil hat on the refs don't want VAR, they want their power on the pitch and we all know that they aren't good enough there.

If you doubt what I'm saying go and watch the Championship, the decisions are shit and fans moan like fuck about them

We have a solution, it needs to be better.
 
Guarantee one thing: getting the ref to ‘explain’ the decision afterwards will make the mood of the crowd worse. It’s this kind of ‘solution’ that makes you realise they don’t know what the problem is.

“[Tap Tap] Is this thing working Jonsey? [Feedback screech] Decision is no goal due to violent play from Wolves no. 12”. Cunha falls over on pitch in disbelief and gets booked. 27,997 Wolves fans [podcast boys are down in the bar watching another match] go absolutely mental screaming “but he didn’t fckin touch him”.

They won’t broadcast the conversation between official and the VAR team like in rugby and cricket for one reason: even they know it would reveal the complete lack of professionalism and objectivity allegedly being delivered. What a complete and utter shamble.
 
Mel Evo said:
Guarantee one thing: getting the ref to ‘explain’ the decision afterwards will make the mood of the crowd worse. It’s this kind of ‘solution’ that makes you realise they don’t know what the problem is.

“[Tap Tap] Is this thing working Jonsey? [Feedback screech] Decision is no goal due to violent play from Wolves no. 12”. Cunha falls over on pitch in disbelief and gets booked. 27,997 Wolves fans [podcast boys are down in the bar watching another match] go absolutely mental screaming “but he didn’t fckin touch him”.

They won’t broadcast the conversation between official and the VAR team like in rugby and cricket for one reason: even they know it would reveal the complete lack of professionalism and objectivity allegedly being delivered. What a complete and utter shamble.
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It should be screened and I've no idea why they aren't insisting on that.
 
Johnny75 said:
It should be screened and I've no idea why they aren't insisting on that.
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Because they know it’s flakey and subjective, including their shabby lines, so they’d rather protect the ref from an even worse crowd response. It’s a pathetic place we’ve ended up.
 
Sniffer said:
I think its a bit of a distraction exercise from the club. Crap end to the season, season ticket prices yet to be announced but we'll throw this out and get huge exposure for the club for the decisions that went against us this season.. It is widely accepted that we've been on the wrong end of a number of crap decisions this season but if my memory is correct, without VAR we'd be 3 points better off (Fulham/West Ham/Bournemouth). With a functioning centre forward when injuries struck I'd have hoped we would have been better off than that.

Crap VAR - 3 points
Crap Recruitment - (?)

Jeff and Fosun cost us far more this season.

Heard Matt Jarvis on the radio earlier and he was poor with his reasoning behind why it should be scrapped talking about offsides etc when it is due to be automated anyway and the vast majority of fans accept those decisions anyway. Its the subjective crap that gets everyone's goat up.
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It's more than 3 points isn't it?

United 1st game of the season is another one, Sheff Utd last minute against Fabio another. I'm sure there are more (Luton and Newcastle being others that who knows how it would have effected results, but that doesnt mean they should be discounted), also the hand ball against Cov.

So if we don't have those nasty decisions AND a functioning centre forward, we're probably 6-9 points better off and we've had at least one Wembley visit!
 
Elephant Pyjamas said:
It's more than 3 points isn't it?

United 1st game of the season is another one, Sheff Utd last minute against Fabio another. I'm sure there are more (Luton and Newcastle being others that who knows how it would have effected results, but that doesnt mean they should be discounted), also the hand ball against Cov.

So if we don't have those nasty decisions AND a functioning centre forward, we're probably 6-9 points better off and we've had at least one Wembley visit!
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Thing is they're not VAR.

The on-field referees didn't give us a penalty at Old Trafford and gave phantom penalties against us vs Newcastle and Sheff Utd. If VAR doesn't exist then those shitty calls still do.

It was of course nonsense that 0 out of 3 got corrected when they were all obviously wrong.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Thing is they're not VAR.

The on-field referees didn't give us a penalty at Old Trafford and gave phantom penalties against us vs Newcastle and Sheff Utd. If VAR doesn't exist then those shitty calls still do.

It was of course nonsense that 0 out of 3 got corrected when they were all obviously wrong.
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I understand your point, but I'm not sure that's necessarily true. I think referees don't give decisions sometimes because they have VAR to lean on.

Certainly think that was the case v United.

And it is VAR that's at fault if they're not correcting obvious decisions.
 
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