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Torino 2 - 3 Wolves (A Thread Title I thought I'd Never Use): The Verdict

Vinagre was shit but that’s an exception really. His crossing was terrible (isn’t great usually) and defensively he was weak, although they were very physical. Chuck in the penalty as well and questionable liability for the first and it wasn’t a great day at the office. Would happily see him play Sunday or next thursday though and expect a different performance.

Not sure what Nuno will do. If Doc isn’t fit then i imagine Jonny will play Sunday and then Vini back in for the second leg.
 
Vinagre was generally pretty good in between our defensive third and the final third. He had his good and bad moments in both of those, but the bad obviously outweighed the good on this occasion.

He's a young lad and it was one game in the grand scheme of things. He'll have bad games again and also very good games.
 
Vinagre was our worst player by far. Not sure what positive inpact he brought that jonny couldnt have done.
The reality is neither vimagre or gibbs white are good enough to be consistant against decent competition. Either we continue to risk losing points by playing them or they sit on our bench. Neither option is great, I dont want to loan them out either but jonny and mou cant play every minute of every game

You're entitled to your opinion but got to disagree, yes Vinagre wasn't great but you have to cut the kid some slack, I'll be well pissed off if him and MGW get sent out on lone, they need to be exactly where they are, getting valuable experience when we can get them in the team and learning from the likes of Moutinho and Jonny, plus they ain't gunna get the quality of coaching at MKDons that they do from Nuno and our coaching staff
 
Bloody madness to send them out on loan. "You're off to Newcastle to play under Steve Bruce, lads." Yep, that'll develop them as footballers...
 
Its simple. The game became open and stretched. Nuno could have shut it down with negative substitution's but he didn't. He went for the throat. As a consequence we conceded. Better a 3_2 than a 1 0.

Now its up to us to play sensibly. 0 0 is fine in the next game but not for Torino so there will be space. Score first kill the tie.
 
Its simple. The game became open and stretched. Nuno could have shut it down with negative substitution's but he didn't. He went for the throat. As a consequence we conceded. Better a 3_2 than a 1 0.

Now its up to us to play sensibly. 0 0 is fine in the next game but not for Torino so there will be space. Score first kill the tie.

"Cry havoc," as Shakespeare wrote, "And unleash Adama!"
 
"Cry havoc," as Shakespeare wrote, "And unleash Adama!"

I agree. So far we have scored some lovely team goals. We have just gone to the 7th best team in Italy a team that only conceded 37 goals all last season , less than a goal a game, a team that lost only 7 games all season and scored 3 times. Come on!
 
Having seen the highlights, the defending from Torino on Jota and Raúl's goals is... Shocking. Ansaldi practically looked like he'd been paid off to give Adama a wide berth! And the attempted "tackle" on Raúl. Yikes.
 
On the Raul one, I thought they'd half stopped for the foul on Neto
 
The CB just showed him onto his left foot and Raul obliged and had a free dig at goal. Show him onto his left foot, fine. Don’t be that far off if you can’t do anything and give him a free shot.
 
The CB just showed him onto his left foot and Raul obliged and had a free dig at goal. Show him onto his left foot, fine. Don’t be that far off if you can’t do anything and give him a free shot.

Looked more like he was trying to stop him scoring a touchdown, just kept himself directly in front of Jimenez and seemed to completely ignore where the goal. Was miles too far aware from him to really have any impact on the play, worse than everyone's favourite Roger Johnson clip.
 

The announcers don't even break sentence when we score :)
 
Rose got his big break and biggest year of development when he was starting left back for sunderland for a full loan season. Sunderland was shit, swapped managers, barely survived, etc. Minutes at the top level are whats important. Its obvious that nuno (rightfully) doesnt trust them yet, theyre both going to be limited to a few games vs weaker opposition and sub appreances. Id rather they start for steve bruce than sit on the bench here. Either way im not going to argue
 
I wouldn’t at all. We have a minimal squad, so chunks of it aren’t going on loan to that cuntknuckle
 
Rose got his big break and biggest year of development when he was starting left back for sunderland for a full loan season. Sunderland was shit, swapped managers, barely survived, etc. Minutes at the top level are whats important. Its obvious that nuno (rightfully) doesnt trust them yet, theyre both going to be limited to a few games vs weaker opposition and sub appreances. Id rather they start for steve bruce than sit on the bench here. Either way im not going to argue

Nope, sorry, still don't agree, Wolves have a quite different style to all othet teams snd they certainly have a different ethos, much rather keep players that Nuno feels are on the edge of the first team squad and do as you say, play easier games and introduce them steadily
 
Fair enough, but this really should be the make it or break it season. Personally id like to see an experienced center mid atleast signed in jan
 
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