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The Transfer Thread 2019/20 - everything not Wolves

Briefly we might have. Stop bloody panicking.

If you want their rubbish like fucking Mings here then more fool you.

I don't think it's unfair for people to be concerned. Especially when the manager is.
 
He isn't. One interview. One line. Hugely misinterpreted. It's fucking shite wading through it every fucking pre-season.
 
He isn't. One interview. One line. Hugely misinterpreted. It's fucking shite wading through it every fucking pre-season.

Bit different this time. There's 3 weeks till deadline day and we have 14 first team players of which one of those is injured. At the moment we are weaker than last season. It isn't good at the moment.

I'm not sure why you think the manager saying we need more bodies is shite, seems pretty clear to me.
 
To be honest it's Tim on his last hurrah stirring it.

If it were a genuine dig at the club then we wouldn't be very likely to put it on the official site. But there it is, verbatim.
 
Briefly we might have. Stop bloody panicking.

If you want their rubbish like fucking Mings here then more fool you.
I don't think it's unfair for people to be concerned. Especially when the manager is.
It's not about panicking, nor is it about wanting Tyrone Mings or Matt Targett. It is about having a squad which needed greater depth than we had last season both in terms of quality and in my view numbers.

Depending on our progress we will have 2 games a week pretty much from the start of the season until Xmas and then from February onwards. Rather than strengthening our squad we have weakened it, that's just a weak business plan. You sign players and then move others out, our squad is too thin to do it the other way round.

However you choose to interpret Nuno's comments it's fairly clear we don't have a signing in or close to being in the bag.To me that makes the releasing of Cav in particular silly. There are at least two occasions in the last 18 months on deals not involving Mendes when for whatever reason we've put all our eggs in one basket and failed to secure the transfer, so it's not like we have a perfect record.

I think we are taking an unnecessary risk in releasing competent players who with our upcoming workload would have played a part when it seems fairly clear that at the moment we don't have replacements guaranteed. That's not me pant wetting or deserving of condescending replies and neither am I going to throw out hyperbolic statements about relegation, but in my view it's a flawed strategy which we may or may not get penalised by, but it's still flawed.
 
I don't think it matters what order we do it in particularly, but we do need to get it right.

Also it's not really a numbers game. We used neither Cav nor Costa much after Christmas. None of us would have been comfortable with either of them starting up front. If we sign one player who can play there - who is on the wages of what they were combined - then we've improved, even though mathematically we're a player down.

We'll see. I'm still relaxed about it but Haller and Konsa are two players I would have liked to have signed.
 
I don't think it matters what order we do it in particularly, but we do need to get it right.

Also it's not really a numbers game. We used neither Cav nor Costa much after Christmas. None of us would have been comfortable with either of them starting up front. If we sign one player who can play there - who is on the wages of what they were combined - then we've improved, even though mathematically we're a player down.

We'll see. I'm still relaxed about it but Haller and Konsa are two players I would have liked to have signed.
I think where I differ from you, Paddy and others is the impact of Europe. From the random gameweek I put up a couple of days ago Arsenal made 9 changes and Chelsea 8, it doesn't look like we are going to be able to do that and compete. So in my view by October assuming we make the Group stages of the EL we'll have to prioritise, which I'd imagine will be the PL.

I don't accept Coady's point that it's the same as the Championship because of a) the travelling b) most of the rest of the league aren't doing it c) the level of the competition.

I do accept the hierarchy deserve our trust, but I don't believe in blind faith either
 
I think Arsenal and Chelsea do that principally because they carry silly amounts of surplus players who otherwise would never play.

We played 46 games last season and managed ok. Coady played every minute of every one.

These early games are just friendlies. Crusaders is in place of us playing Notts County and Port Vale.
 
Either we had some miracle workers in the sports science/physio departments last season or we got very lucky with injuries. Surely we won't get that lucky again if that was the case (Doc already as an example), so that needs factoring into comparisons with last season.

I'm going for the conditioning/training of the players and the miracle workers because that is pretty much two seasons in a row. I don't remember any serious injuries in the Championship campaign either
 
I'm going for the conditioning/training of the players and the miracle workers because that is pretty much two seasons in a row. I don't remember any serious injuries in the Championship campaign either

I think Boly was out for a few weeks with a hamstring strain. The medical team and fitness regime are clearly better now and injury prevention is a big part of that however the only way you can mitigate against unforseen impact injuries is to have a deeper squad.

We have got lucky with impact injuries.
 
We've been very lucky with injuries. And overworking the players is a good way to reduce the value of some of the excellent conditioning work.

Honestly listening to some of you it's as if we'll only need ten outfield players all season ffs. Like we've discounted injuries as possibility because we're special
 
Zohore to Albion. Good signing if they get the Championship version
 
West Ham doing some good business this summer with Haller now confirmed.
 
De Ligt confirmed at Juventus for £67.5m. When compared to what Leicester want for Maguire that is a bargain
 
Lol

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Barca officially back in for Neymar.

£90m + 2 players offered (they have given them a list of 6 to choose from inc Coutinho & Dembele)
 
Their front line is going to be absolutely fucking INSANE.

If I was PSG, then Coutinho and Dembele would be quite tempting. What happens if Liverpool weigh in with a bid to get Coutinho back though*?

*I personally think this is pretty unlikely, but I like to see a spanner in the works of bonkers swap deals, just to mess them up and make them even rarer.
 
Barca officially back in for Neymar.

£90m + 2 players offered (they have given them a list of 6 to choose from inc Coutinho & Dembele)

Really does sound like something on fifa, or footy manager I presume, haven't played it.
 
Fulham signing Knockaert on a season loan with a £10m option at the end. Should be pretty lethal going forward next season with Mitro staying and Cav being there as well
 
Another one in the Dwight Gayle void. He's immense in the Champ but nowhere near good enough for the PL.
 
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