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The Rugby Thread

They haven't been good all year, they were so-so in the championship apart from when they played a half strength Australia at home when they were pissed off after losing to them the week before, and are clearly not firing here.

The front row is terrible, line out not great and Carter is not the player he was, along with that some of the other famous names like Reid, C. Smith, Nonu are not the players they are. Who ever plays them in the Quarter Final will feel they have spme sort of a chance, especially the French who seem to spook the All Blacks when it comes to Wc's. Saying that if anyone can flick a switch and turn from mediocre to brilliant its them, plus the back 3 are on fire and McCaw has lost none of his powers.

As for Georgia considering it was a half strength side they stuck at it well with some hard hits, according to people who know these things they are at a similar level to Italy were in the late 90's when they were got accepted to the Five Nations, infact from what we have seen so far if you put Italy, Georgia and Romania in a group, Italy would probably but it is not a foregone conclusion (especially without Parisse) come out on top.

Could be an interesting time ahead in a couple of years for the 6N, Italy are declining and their underage teams are cannon fodder at the moment, they don't look like producing are future stars and the club game is poor, its not hard to conceive in the future (especiaily when Parisse does go) that Georgia would pass them standard wise. You will have a country where rugby is the No 1 sport (they get nearly 70,000 for games with Russia!) and a billionaire backer knocking on the door. No doubt politics and logistics will then come into play.

(I realise this is a dangerous post to make when we play Italy tomorrow, if we lose it will be all my fault!)
 
Looking at McCaw he doesn't look the inspiring animal from before and wouldn't be surprised if the All Blacks were ruthless and relegated him to the subs bench. They certainly require fresh inspiration.
 
Not a chance in hell they will drop McCaw still one of their best players, I could see them dropping Carter as he hasn't played well for a couple of years after the injuries, except they haven't got a viable alternative
 
Not a chance in hell they will drop McCaw still one of their best players, I could see them dropping Carter as he hasn't played well for a couple of years after the injuries, except they haven't got a viable alternative
Do the All Blacks have any other options at centre, someone who could add a bit of imagination to their game?
 
They seem to be keen on a running game for everything without their pack dominating the opposition causing a lack of space.

Japan 10-0 on Samoa, Samoa 2 men in the bin
 
Japan comfortably winning. Might make things interesting if the Boks beat Scotland.
 
20 - 3 at half time. Scotland getting what they deserve for putting their reserve team out.
 
Love the referee reaction

"dive like that and you can come back here and play in two weeks time"
 
Sadly I cannot see England winning, but my powers of prediction are almost legendary, so England should be fine...
 
Australia by 5 points.

England by 7 - they will be hurting after that shambles at the end v Wales & know they are will be out if they don't win & no host has done that in the group stage before.

We are at 'home' & will do just enough
 
Australia absolutely butchered a try there. My word they look right up for this. England will have to be at their absolute best.
 
England all over the place at the moment.
 
Better last couple of minutes though. These are two good sides. All the signs of a titanic clash.
 
Excellent by England now. Tasty clashes all over the pitch. This is a brutal test already.
 
Foley scores a fine try for Australia. Big concern is that England had defended so well for a good two or three minutes and then one cock-up in defence was punished.
 
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