The Mental Health thread

[Pablowolf]

He was a smooth motherfucker back in the day. Funny and smart, too.

If I ever get to that stage (not that I'm abusing my body and mind that way these days) just knock me out and chuck me in the canal.

OK, but I will scalp you and sell that fine hair afterwards

 

[lemonjelly]

On the "thinking I know better" them,e, which I used to experience, I've learned how much I don't know. Nowadays I try to remind myself in many situations that there is probably additional information I am not privy to. I'll ask questions, explore options and so on. Sometimes I will defer to those better qualified than me. I find reminding myself that I don't know everything about an issue really helps me manage myself. Hell, on a daily basis I'm surrounded by professors and (non-medical) doctors. These people are all exceptionally intelligent. But their intelligence/knowledge applies to a fairly restricted field, and I remind myself that I have knowledge from other fields that compliments their skills.

 

[lemonjelly]

I had a total melt down at work 6 weeks ago . couldn't stand the total insignificant bull shit been lectured to me that didn't even concern me ,so I made my excuse to leave work , got home and every emotion you can think of hit me I was a mess ! lucky for me my family came to the rescue ,i'm now having grief counselling and things are starting to get better it was also the first anniversary of my wifes death which had been praying on my mind .

First year is always the hardest mate - everything is a reminder, and also the first experience without the one we lost.

As deutsch says, be open. You're welcome to vent on here with a certain level of anonymity.

 

[tricky wolf]

cheers lads :icon_biggrin:

 

[lemonjelly]

we're social creatures mate. We work better together.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Edit: Never mind

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

Edit: Never mind

It was a seminal album, but enough about the 90s grunge scene, everything ok? Even if it sounds stupid (like 90% of the irrelevant shit I post) it can help just to sound off every now and then

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

https://oscillatingwildly.net/a-royal-team-talk-and-fighting-back/

 

[Deleted Cyber]

https://oscillatingwildly.net/a-royal-team-talk-and-fighting-back/

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

That piece is actually really badly written :icon_lol: I did it at like 5am and just needed to express myself (and it's my website, I can do what I like). But it's not very good. Ah well.

I am fighting hard because there's no way I'm getting beaten by this, even if I have to scrap every day of my life. It's not happening.

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

I'm pleased to hear that. I hope that you get to live with those demons in some sort of balance, it sure as hell isn't easy, but always focus with clarity to persevere with life - it's worth it

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's hard. But I only fight it by being open about it. Hiding away isn't a good idea, as tempting as it is sometimes.

And yeah, I know very little of what I struggle with stands up to logic and reason. Logic and reason isn't why I'm here though.

 

[Stan Hullis]

There was a good program with Alistair Campbell on BBC last night about his depression.

Well worth a watch.

 

[Johnny75]

There was a good program with Alistair Campbell on BBC last night about his depression.

Well worth a watch.

It was very interesting and a different perspective on it as it was all about different techniques as well as individuals. Nadia trying to get to grips with her anxiety was a tough but brilliant watch.

I found the David Harewood psychosis programme the toughest of the three to watch with no answers at all to any of the questions he asked.

 

[SLA]

It was very interesting and a different perspective on it as it was all about different techniques as well as individuals. Nadia trying to get to grips with her anxiety was a tough but brilliant watch.

I found the David Harewood psychosis programme the toughest of the three to watch with no answers at all to any of the questions he asked.

Nadia's one was excellent and Campbell's was also good.

I'm obviously in favour of these programmes - my wife being a serious depressive for the last 30 years - my only issue with them is that they investigate a treatment for a very short period of time, then move on to another one, then another one... and at the end say, "well, I'm not 100% convinced by any of those as I still feel like I did at the start".

Now, I get why it's done this way - they're trying to show the range of treatments - and get the mental health message across which is fantastic, but the vast majority of the treatments take a long time to have real benefits, especially the talking therapies and i wonder if the whistle stop tour approach gives an unrealistic/unfair view.

I'm nitpicking, of course - it's trying to bring the MH discussion into the mainstream which is fantastic.

 

[lemonjelly]

tricky, you still reading?
read this and thought of you:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48364893

 

[Johnny75]

Nadia's one was excellent and Campbell's was also good.

I'm obviously in favour of these programmes - my wife being a serious depressive for the last 30 years - my only issue with them is that they investigate a treatment for a very short period of time, then move on to another one, then another one... and at the end say, "well, I'm not 100% convinced by any of those as I still feel like I did at the start".

Now, I get why it's done this way - they're trying to show the range of treatments - and get the mental health message across which is fantastic, but the vast majority of the treatments take a long time to have real benefits, especially the talking therapies and i wonder if the whistle stop tour approach gives an unrealistic/unfair view.

I'm nitpicking, of course - it's trying to bring the MH discussion into the mainstream which is fantastic.

I understand your point and maybe it needed 3 presenters to do 3 treatments over a year and a longer number of programmes and I hope they do something like that. The CBT Nadia undertook was far too quick and I felt she needed to give that much longer than the short number of sessions she did as you could see it did have an effect on her.

As you say, it's good to talk about mental health and more programmes on this, just as we have whole series on physiological issue would help.

I thought the poorest of all the programmes was the footballers talking in the Cambridge United changing room. It was vapid and soulless. The opposite of what I think talking to people should actually be like.

 

[SLA]

I understand your point and maybe it needed 3 presenters to do 3 treatments over a year and a longer number of programmes and I hope they do something like that. The CBT Nadia undertook was far too quick and I felt she needed to give that much longer than the short number of sessions she did as you could see it did have an effect on her.

As you say, it's good to talk about mental health and more programmes on this, just as we have whole series on physiological issue would help.

I thought the poorest of all the programmes was the footballers talking in the Cambridge United changing room. It was vapid and soulless. The opposite of what I think talking to people should actually be like.

Yeah, it was a shame Nadya couldn't continue with that CBT - though who knows what's going on now? I have to say, I was really surprised that she was suffering so badly - you would not have guessed it from her TV persona (which is lovely). Seems the camera does lie after all.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The one thing you learn from being massively depressed is how to be a pretty decent actor.

 

[SLA]

The one thing you learn from being massively depressed is how to be a pretty decent actor.

True dat. Everyone's amazed when they hear that my lovely outgoing friendly wife, life and soul of the party, has spent huge amounts of her life unable to get out of bed due to her condition and has had 3 suicide attempts and several hospital stays. Saves all that shit up for her dumb husband.