The Incoming Transfers Everywhere Thread: Summer 2023

[The Bear]

Moura is shite. 1 performance in 6 merchant.

 

[Lycan]

He's also a fucking cunt. Bolsonaro lickspittle.

 

[Jinky]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655672123707277312

 

[PuntsWolf]

Sorry to bring this all back up but Onuachu reminded me as I couldn’t respond earlier.

Hwang will fill that 3rd/ alternative slot. You may not like it but Lopetegui does.

I think if were in a situation that Hwang is playing as a #9 then I hope we’re already winning as we’re throwing away points. We’ve already seen how bad we are when Costa doesn’t play.

And you don't sign a 3rd alternative if your squad is built correctly.

I think in a world of 5 subs I want 3 strikers, particularly when it’s so pivotal to the way we play. We can fudge other positions (CBs at FB, CMs out wide, “wide players” alongside the striker, but when we play anyone else up front it’s a total disaster and we’re awful.

Wasting an international slot on a 3rd choice striker is such a bizarre argument.

I’m not really sure international slot should be a factor. We maybe wouldn’t need to if we had an U21 close to this level but we don’t. We’re also shedding minimum of 5 international players this summer so surely should be some space? We really need to work on our squad building from these shores anyway because we’re signing a lot of expensive, shit, non UK players over 21 currently.

Why do we need a 3rd out and out option, if we are playing with 1 up front and 1 in behind?

As I said above about it being a specialist position for us and 5 subs.

A new centre forward plus Sasa is already one more option than we went years with. If the answer is because Sasa is an injury risk then the issue lies with him and he'd need replacing not backing up.

Not bothered about the Sasa factor, more any player. Any striker we have gets an injury for 4-5 games and your flogging the other guy for 90 mins. And also if that guy turns out to be shit you’ve got a real problem as whenever we don’t play with a proper 9 then we are garbage. So I’d quite like this cheap insurance policy for such a pivotal position which we can’t fudge like we could other positions.

 

[Wolvensam]

I think I’m in agreement with Punts on this one - our fortunes went massively downhill when Raul got his unfortunate injury and we haven’t really looked right again until very recently where we’ve, once again, got a proper number 9 playing.

Ideally we want one that will score 10-15 a season, but someone who can link up play for the others and lead the press from the front is a huge priority as lacking that is what reduced our goal threat and made us look disjointed.

 

[Johnny75]

I think I’m in agreement with Punts on this one - our fortunes went massively downhill when Raul got his unfortunate injury and we haven’t really looked right again until very recently where we’ve, once again, got a proper number 9 playing.

Ideally we want one that will score 10-15 a season, but someone who can link up play for the others and lead the press from the front is a huge priority as lacking that is what reduced our goal threat and made us look disjointed.

Raul is our 2nd striker and doesn't make the bench.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

My reluctance to offer Diego another year is mainly based on the high probability that if he’s third choice and not playing his fitness will return to 2022 levels rendering him pretty useless. If the club believe they can keep him close to his current fitness levels he wouldn’t be a bad third choice striker but it is a big if. Even then his lack of goals now he is fit is a concern and you’d hope the club could find someone who would be a better option.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

How many windows is it since Raul cracked his skull?

We haven't got anywhere near replacing his goals, I hope that changes, but I don't expect it to at all.

 

[Del Woppio]

We certainly aren't going to replace them with the forward options currently at the club

 

[Tony Towner]

Our leading league scorer for the last 3 years has had 5, 6 and 6 (with 3 games left). Unless we continue to win games 1-0 that's not sustainable

 

[Kenny]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655898417892057088

 

[The Bear]

They're trying to restructure their finances and offload players to enable them to get Messi back. Not a surprise he isn't a priority any more.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Xavi doesn’t want Neves. Whether it happens will depend if Mendes has a bigger say than the manager like he has done here previously.

 

[Kenny]

Lot of reports today that Messi has agreed to go to Saudi next season for an amount that makes Ronaldo's wage look low

Xavi has rejected the chance to sign Neves before, so not much of a fan

 

[Keef]

£120 million a year isn’t it?

 

[Jinky]

Surely this only heightens the chances of him moving to a PL rival, though?

I think it was GFFH that hinted United & Newcastle were sniffing around.

I honestly don’t see him staying here again this summer (and if we’re being brutally honest, we probably need the funds from his sale), but it will be interesting to see how it all pans out. Neves himself doesn’t seem that pushy for a move, so I assume a lot will depend on Mendes.

 

[WsWolf]

Sorry to bring this all back up but Onuachu reminded me as I couldn’t respond earlier.

I think if were in a situation that Hwang is playing as a #9 then I hope we’re already winning as we’re throwing away points. We’ve already seen how bad we are when Costa doesn’t play.

I think in a world of 5 subs I want 3 strikers, particularly when it’s so pivotal to the way we play. We can fudge other positions (CBs at FB, CMs out wide, “wide players” alongside the striker, but when we play anyone else up front it’s a total disaster and we’re awful.

I’m not really sure international slot should be a factor. We maybe wouldn’t need to if we had an U21 close to this level but we don’t. We’re also shedding minimum of 5 international players this summer so surely should be some space? We really need to work on our squad building from these shores anyway because we’re signing a lot of expensive, shit, non UK players over 21 currently.

As I said above about it being a specialist position for us and 5 subs.

Not bothered about the Sasa factor, more any player. Any striker we have gets an injury for 4-5 games and your flogging the other guy for 90 mins. And also if that guy turns out to be shit you’ve got a real problem as whenever we don’t play with a proper 9 then we are garbage. So I’d quite like this cheap insurance policy for such a pivotal position which we can’t fudge like we could other positions.

I think the quality (lack of) of our wide players is direct correlation to why we look poorer without a focal point striker.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

They're trying to restructure their finances and offload players to enable them to get Messi back. Not a surprise he isn't a priority any more.

They saw a lever in Neves plus us chucking £30m for Ansu as giving them Messi money.

We aren’t interested. End of story.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Surely this only heightens the chances of him moving to a PL rival, though?

I think it was GFFH that hinted United & Newcastle were sniffing around.

I honestly don’t see him staying here again this summer (and if we’re being brutally honest, we probably need the funds from his sale), but it will be interesting to see how it all pans out. Neves himself doesn’t seem that pushy for a move, so I assume a lot will depend on Mendes.

United probably won't be throwing that kind of money around on a CM if their takeover doesn't go through soon. They need a striker as a priority.

As I mentioned the other week, the well-connected Newcastle reporter on the Telegraph listed 16 specific targets in an article and Neves wasn't on there.

 

[Kenny]

United probably won't be throwing that kind of money around on a CM if their takeover doesn't go through soon. They need a striker as a priority.

Stuff on Utd last week was a transfer budget of £100m plus money from sales.

If the Qatar takeover goes through, would presume their shopping list will go up a notch or 2 and they will want big names coming in