The Football News Thread 2020/21

[Jack Regan]

Milner just asked about it, doesn't like it and hopes it doesn't happen.

 

[Del Woppio]

It’s a job to them though, if the Man City of my career came in for me and offered me a shed load more money I’d have to seriously consider it. Likewise you’d seriously consider losing that before you’d rock the boat.

It's a bit different though - you and I need to work til we're 60. I doubt there's a player over 23 in those 6 who'd ever need to worry about money even if they didn't earn another penny

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Big credit to Milner. Easy to duck the question but didn't.

 

[jlo]

They've choose a great time to release this news - 11 days of back to back Prem or Champs League football with only 2 days not including one the six judas clubs. They are going to get lynched in the media further yet. The players are playing a decent role here to be fair, they are unfairly having to be the spokespeople for their coward owners.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Absolutely appalling that Liverpool staff and players learned when we learned. I mean WTF?

How can you run any kind of business that way?

 

[jlo]

Big credit to Milner. Easy to duck the question but didn't.

I think Milner was even inviting the question on to be fair. He seem agitated to say something and turned the question itself into an opportunity to hit out. Big credit.

 

[Alan]

Unfortunately we don’t need people who speak well we need people to take action.

Careful what you wish for...

 

[Alan]

Is that a real quote? Where is it from?

Found part of it - No swearing though, although that is translated

I think it's the worst that can happen. I just hate the thought of it. That's the worst thing about football, for me it's a hopeless idea. Juventus, for example, have been eliminated early (in the Champions League journ note) three years in a row against teams from Portugal, France and the Netherlands. What story does it have? I would say that Tottenham is also not among the 30 best clubs in Europe to date, Solbakken says to Dagbladet.

Tordner: - Verste som kan skje

Norges Fotballforbund har ingen tro på opprettelsen av en superliga i europeisk fotball, og mener at den er et brudd på solidaritet. Landslagssjef Ståle Solbakken (53) raser mot prosjektet.

www.dagbladet.no

Watched the interview, can confirm he drops the Norweigan equivalent of the F bomb.

 

[jlo]

Said it earlier, and surprised how quickly the government have spoke out, they've really set themselves up for a rude awaking (although no doubt the rich owners will lobby back).

In a statement to the House of Commons, Mr Dowden criticised the so-called "big six" English clubs for going "against the very spirit of the game".

He added that owners "should remember that they are only temporary custodians of these clubs and that they forget fans at their peril".

A fan-led review, due to take place after the pandemic, has been brought forward because of the ESL announcement, Mr Dowden said.

It would be led by former sports minister Tracey Crouch and "consider how fans can have an even greater say in the oversight of the game and models which might best achieve that", he added.

The review also look at the finances of the men's and women's game, its governance and whether an independent football regulator should be set up.

Mr Dowden said he had spoken to Uefa and the Football Association, who both oppose the move by the 12 clubs, adding that, "if they can't act, we will".

"We will put everything on the table to prevent this from happening," he told MPs. "We are examining every option from governance reform to competition law and mechanisms that allow football to take place.

"We will be reviewing everything Government does to support these clubs to play. We will do whatever it takes to protect our national game."

Earlier Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the government was "going to look at everything that we can do with the football authorities to make sure that this doesn't go ahead in the way that it's currently being proposed".

Downing Street said ministers were looking at a "range of options", including a German-style system of fan ownership of clubs and clawing back coronavirus support loans.

Bring on German-style fan ownership.

 

[jlo]

Klopp misreading the room. A beauty to learns Leeds not only wore those shirts, they even put them in the Liverpool dressing room. He's right that's not going to bring a togetherness, but he's massively wrong to think it's about the players. Same with the boo-ing. At that moment, it's not about the players, it's the symbolism and what they represent.

 

[redvictor]

I think Milner was even inviting the question on to be fair. He seem agitated to say something and turned the question itself into an opportunity to hit out. Big credit.

I would imagine 99% of the players and managers don't sit well with any of it. I guess some will speak out, and some won't.
Hopefully tomorrow the 14 clubs reps issue an ultimatum to the 6 clubs. Set up this league and you leave the PL, and if you want to return then you start in league 2.
We can all hope that they are brave enough, but in reality they will not have the bollocks to do it. But glad to see Fosun and Wolves very much opposed to it.

It's shocking the way they have timed this, but i'm not surprised. Driven by the yanks who are desperate for this business model because they live for the mighty dollar. It's ingrained in their business culture. You can see in their quotes about this money grab.
"It's all about us, fuck the rest of you".

 

[redvictor]

Klopp misreading the room. A beauty to learns Leeds not only wore those shirts, they even put them in the Liverpool dressing room. He's right that's not going to bring a togetherness, but he's massively wrong to think it's about the players. Same with the boo-ing. At that moment, it's not about the players, it's the symbolism and what they represent.

If the owners came out and talked to the media then the shit could be directed at them personally, but they are too chicken shit to even appear in public, never mind talk on camera.
It's a shitty deal letting the manager and players take the flak when they are as much in the dark as everyone else.
That tells you everything you need to know about these owners.

 

[slink]

I thought Carra and Neville in particular tonight were spot on, talked about all sorts of points including sky's involvement in the Premier League and the fact that due to money some clubs will always be towards the top but there's always a chance for any club to become that club however slim that may be, with the super league there becomes no chance and if those 6 clubs are still involved in the Premier League it becomes pointless.

I love Wolves, i follow them home and away and i've fucking missed it so much over the last year and i need that part of my life back as i feel there's something missing but if this league goes through with the plans currently in place that wipes out the point of the domestic leagues and destroys the football pyramid i think i'm done with the game at this level. It goes against all that football should be about, there's lots of questionable things already fans let ride because of their love of the game but this would be a step too far.

 

[redvictor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1384263768905981956

Bielsa certainly knows the craic here. It isn't just in football. Greed is universal.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I bet that stressed his translator out..

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I bet that stressed his translator out..

It's a tough life, I've been telling you for years...

Carra is spot on, people need to keep speaking out and once one of the 12 has second thoughts it'll collapse. The goodwill is gone forever though, it's a PR disaster.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

I would imagine 99% of the players and managers don't sit well with any of it. I guess some will speak out, and some won't.
Hopefully tomorrow the 14 clubs reps issue an ultimatum to the 6 clubs. Set up this league and you leave the PL, and if you want to return then you start in league 2.
We can all hope that they are brave enough, but in reality they will not have the bollocks to do it. But glad to see Fosun and Wolves very much opposed to it.

It's shocking the way they have timed this, but i'm not surprised. Driven by the yanks who are desperate for this business model because they live for the mighty dollar. It's ingrained in their business culture. You can see in their quotes about this money grab.
"It's all about us, fuck the rest of you".

Hopefully they will stand firm, and ask the question who needs who more?

All very well raking in €350million a year but if your not playing in the domestic league, then only playing 15-20 games a year against the same opposition with no tradition/rivalry and very few away fans isnt much good.

Whats the alternatives? if they go then yes the income coming in from broadcasting will drop, but you have a more equal competiton amongst the competing clubs, and European qualification.

Add to that are you any better off letting them continue in the league? They will get even more of broadcasting money as they know even after this if they are not expelled, that the rest of the clubs have no backbone and will bend over and take the shafting, they wont take it seriously but will still have the strongest squads due to their riches, so rest of the clubs will be just feeding off scraps to see who finishes 7th and even if they finish in the top 6 they wont get into Europe.

 

[Johnny75]

Florentine Perez making himself look a right cunt on Spanish TV tonight.

Apparently this league will save football and we should all be grateful as they will help the smaller clubs (the rest of the world) by buying up their best talent.

The sheer arrogance of that statement will ensure he will need some sort of armoured guard should he ever set foot on British soil.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

It's a tough life, I've been telling you for years...

Carra is spot on, people need to keep speaking out and once one of the 12 has second thoughts it'll collapse. The goodwill is gone forever though, it's a PR disaster.

They misread the sitation, they have left spaces for 3 more clubs to be part of the golden circle, but there doesnt seem to be a rush (at least publicly) to fill the spaces. They need PSG & Bayern (& probably Dortmund) to be included to make it viable and it doesnt look like they will get them.

Whole thing seems rushed by them.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Reading that Perez thread by Fabrizio Romano makes me want to shoot the bloke.

Keeps banging on about “saving football”.

Just because you’re leagues mismanagent have made it boring, uncompetitive and a shit product, don’t come crying to us.