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The Football News Thread 2020/21

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As much as the PL will want to keep the Sky 6 in the league, I can't see how they can. If they let them get away with this you're creating a closed shop in the Premier League too. FFP will be a thing of the past and they will hoover up all the talent.

Secondly, and more importantly it will show the big 6 they have the power and they will continually propose changes that benefit them knowing they will get away with it. They will take bigger voting rights as they've tried before, push through a bigger slice of TV revenue, get the reduced number of teams they want in the league.

They have to kick them out, as they will just make the Premier League a joke
 
It needs strong characters to stand up now
Deutsch Wolf said:
It won't work though. If they have the misguided belief that football in front of empty stadiums works because of the last year then they're barking up the wrong tree. No, we've gone along with it because we've had to, we're literally not allowed in and for a time football on the TV was ALL there was available to do.

No-one wants to watch this. People won't pay for it.

As I've said, you can't appeal to all non-European markets at the same time.

FIFA and UEFA still hold the cards, as much as Agnelli, Perez, Henry, Glazer, Kroenke etc might like to think otherwise. It's just hubris on their part. Now much like in poker, you can try calling a bluff when you're holding a pair of 2s and a 5 if you really want to. I wouldn't though.
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I think from us in Europe it has no appeal but Liverpool fans say in Asia which there is a lot don’t care who they’re playing. Asian Audiences in particular are huge. Also the CL and Premier league are able to pull in huge global audiences regardless of kick off times.
 
Trips said:
As much as the PL will want to keep the Sky 6 in the league, I can't see how they can. If they let them get away with this you're creating a closed shop in the Premier League too. FFP will be a thing of the past and they will hoover up all the talent.

Secondly, and more importantly it will show the big 6 they have the power and they will continually propose changes that benefit them knowing they will get away with it. They will take bigger voting rights as they've tried before, push through a bigger slice of TV revenue, get the reduced number of teams they want in the league.

They have to kick them out, as they will just make the Premier League a joke
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When you've got Gary Neville - that's Gary Neville, the reddest Red you can imagine - saying he'd happily see Man Utd relegated today, that speaks volumes.

You can't just alienate your entire fanbase because you've decided nebulous folk on the other side of the world might (and I stress might) be more lucrative. What, are they filling Old Trafford every week then? Good luck finding 70,000 hotel rooms in Manchester is all I'll say there.

It's a marketing and PR disaster. Haughty and entitled are never good looks. There's no inevitability about this at all, they're going to have to row back and if they take their lumps for it, so be it. And whoever thought it was a good idea to press the nuclear button at each club will be down the JobCentre in a week or two.

There is no way Liverpool (let's say), faced with the prospect of only ever playing 11 other clubs every year forever, most of whom they have fuck all to do with, are going to actually go through with this.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
When you've got Gary Neville - that's Gary Neville, the reddest Red you can imagine - saying he'd happily see Man Utd relegated today, that speaks volumes.

You can't just alienate your entire fanbase because you've decided nebulous folk on the other side of the world might (and I stress might) be more lucrative. What, are they filling Old Trafford every week then? Good luck finding 70,000 hotel rooms in Manchester is all I'll say there.

It's a marketing and PR disaster. Haughty and entitled are never good looks. There's no inevitability about this at all, they're going to have to row back and if they take their lumps for it, so be it. And whoever thought it was a good idea to press the nuclear button at each club will be down the JobCentre in a week or two.

There is no way Liverpool (let's say), faced with the prospect of only ever playing 11 other clubs every year forever, most of whom they have fuck all to do with, are going to actually go through with this.
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That's chicken feed to what they'll get from ESL.

£350m just for joining I think. 6 billion pound loan to underpin it all.

Those 12 clubs have left the ECA now too.

The opinions of fans in England are irrelevant now.
 
What the idiots don’t realise is that eventually an elite group of clubs will exist in the super league and leave the rest just existing on meaningless matches. Winners will consist of Real, Barca, Man Utd, Liverpool, Juve.
Also by all accounts if you qualified for this then by some miracle won it you’d earn less money that season than permanent member who went out at the group stage.
 
AndyWolves said:
That's chicken feed to what they'll get from ESL.

£350m just for joining I think. 6 billion pound loan to underpin it all.

Those 12 clubs have left the ECA now too.

The opinions of fans in England are irrelevant now.
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The money is irrelevant.

Who are they paying with it? No-one wants to play in this. No-one wants to watch it.

You could offer me £500k p/a right now to go and write crap in Saudi Arabia. Would I heck as like take that, why would I?
 
jd1981 said:
What the idiots don’t realise is that eventually an elite group of clubs will exist in the super league and leave the rest just existing on meaningless matches. Winners will consist of Real, Barca, Man Utd, Liverpool, Juve.
Also by all accounts if you qualified for this then by some miracle won it you’d earn less money that season than permanent member who went out at the group stage.
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I think they know, money will go straight back to the owners. They don't even have to have a competitive team and they'll still be raking it in.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
The money is irrelevant.

Who are they paying with it? No-one wants to play in this. No-one wants to watch it.

You could offer me £500k p/a right now to go and write crap in Saudi Arabia. Would I heck as like take that, why would I?
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You sure? The wages will be astronomical and they'll be playing with and against the best in the world.
 
But they won't. Who wants to play in an artificial league that means nothing, in front of hardly anyone, to please people 10,000 miles away? That's not football. You win whatever Subbuteo trophy they give you at the end, big deal, who cares. You fail, doesn't matter, you're in next year regardless.

Harry Kane grew up wanting to give joy to people in Walthamstow, not Wuhan.
 
Fans will go to stadiums, they'll be watching teams like Barca, RM rather than Burnley & Sheffield United.

I hope you're right though, for it to fail will require lots of involved people to reject it. I fear when the players contracts get announced other players will want a piece of the pie.
 
I just don't think they will. Playing Barcelona once every 3-4 years (which you might get as a United/City/Chelsea/Arsenal when they were good fan), yeah, fantastic, what an occasion. Two or three times a year? You're having a laugh, what do I care? And when often there'll be nothing on the game?

I don't go to Wolves because of who we're playing, I was there when we were playing Stevenage and Crawley back in 2013. I want Wolves to be playing against the best because that's the only way I'll get to see us have the best players we can possibly attract, but it's an irrelevance. As a football fan, I loved watching say, Modric down here for Spurs. Immaculate. Best touch I've ever seen. But I didn't go to see him, I went to see my team, as much as I thought Richard Stearman was a mulleted doofus (although he did get robbed in that game, never a foul on Gomes).

You enter every season with aims and goals. Where are the aims and goals for an Arsenal who would have 0% chance of winning this league (they're shit, they're not that far above us and have had about 10% of the squad issues) but there are no consequences for failure? Why would I want to watch that as an Arsenal fan? It'd be so interminably dull.

I can accept our season is dead, we gave up on the cup (the wrong thing to do) and for a thousand reasons haven't been good enough in the league, but we're far too efficient if nothing else to go down. So it's six games of nothing. Imagine a season of that, over and over again, against the same teams forever, and loads of them will be from overseas and never bring any fans.

I would not be paying £500+ a year to watch that, I can tell you.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
I just don't think they will. Playing Barcelona once every 3-4 years (which you might get as a United/City/Chelsea/Arsenal when they were good fan), yeah, fantastic, what an occasion. Two or three times a year? You're having a laugh, what do I care? And when often there'll be nothing on the game?

I don't go to Wolves because of who we're playing, I was there when we were playing Stevenage and Crawley back in 2013. I want Wolves to be playing against the best because that's the only way I'll get to see us have the best players we can possibly attract, but it's an irrelevance. As a football fan, I loved watching say, Modric down here for Spurs. Immaculate. Best touch I've ever seen. But I didn't go to see him, I went to see my team, as much as I thought Richard Stearman was a mulleted doofus (although he did get robbed in that game, never a foul on Gomes).

You enter every season with aims and goals. Where are the aims and goals for an Arsenal who would have 0% chance of winning this league (they're shit, they're not that far above us and have had about 10% of the squad issues) but there are no consequences for failure? Why would I want to watch that as an Arsenal fan? It'd be so interminably dull.

I can accept our season is dead, we gave up on the cup (the wrong thing to do) and for a thousand reasons haven't been good enough in the league, but we're far too efficient if nothing else to go down. So it's six games of nothing. Imagine a season of that, over and over again, against the same teams forever, and loads of them will be from overseas and never bring any fans.

I would not be paying £500+ a year to watch that, I can tell you.
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It's not about traditional fans though, it doesn't really matter to the owners if traditional fans or tourist type fans turn up.

Fwiw, I think some traditional fans will turn up to watch their team because they won't want to watch any other team.

The foreign TV markets will lap it up because every game is a "blockbuster".

I really hope fans and players boycott it, but I just don't see either.
 
Liverpool, Utd etc could already sell out every week to tourists - normal fans will be priced out and not really wanted.
 
Don't think I have ever seen anything in football that seemingly has everyone against it.
It's united everyone outside the boardrooms of the 12 starting this.
 
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AndyWolves said:
It's not about traditional fans though, it doesn't really matter to the owners if traditional fans or tourist type fans turn up.

Fwiw, I think some traditional fans will turn up to watch their team because they won't want to watch any other team.

The foreign TV markets will lap it up because every game is a "blockbuster".

I really hope fans and players boycott it, but I just don't see either.
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RAWK to see how its viewed by one of the participants fans, surprised by how many were for it (although their justifications were laughable), not the majority but a significant percentage.
 
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