The F1 Thread

[Paddingtonwolf]

Watching the rerun of a race for the ages. No investigation on Max for deliberately running Lewis off the road was a joke. Sounds like the forward pointing camera is now available on Max’ car. If he deliberately steered that way he should get his licence suspended.

 

[The Bear]

Watching the rerun of a race for the ages. No investigation on Max for deliberately running Lewis off the road was a joke. Sounds like the forward pointing camera is now available on Max’ car. If he deliberately steered that way he should get his licence suspended.

They don't need a camera. They have all the telemetry and steering angles. The fact they didn't show that camera angle on the broadcast tells you all you need to know.

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

Behave yourselves.

Everyone hankers for a return to the days when overtaking actually happened, drivers went wheel to wheel and “men were men” - yet as soon as anything remotely close [and in reality it’s nothing compared to the way they raced years ago] happens, everyone wants it sanitised further.

Was Max in the wrong? Probably.
Did anyone get hurt on the widest corner in the track? No.

I’d rather have racing where the underdog can compete (not that I’m suggesting Max or Lewis are that in this scenario) rather than the processional stuff most races deliver up now.

And I’m an F1 fan.

It’s the same as saying football should be a contact sport and then moaning every time one of your players doesn’t get a free kick every time he’s touched.
Not every foul has to be a booking and not every F1 incident has to lead to points deductions or grid penalties.

 

[Tredman]

But you do need consistency, deciding to ignore a rule midway through a season because ‘racing’ is bullshit.

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

I’m not ignoring it half way through. I’ve felt that all season! And the last…

I must admit Lewis does seem to be getting the rough end of the stick at the moment, but he’s had plenty go in his favour previously.

 

[The Bear]

Behave yourselves.

Everyone hankers for a return to the days when overtaking actually happened, drivers went wheel to wheel and “men were men” - yet as soon as anything remotely close [and in reality it’s nothing compared to the way they raced years ago] happens, everyone wants it sanitised further.

Was Max in the wrong? Probably.
Did anyone get hurt on the widest corner in the track? No.

I’d rather have racing where the underdog can compete (not that I’m suggesting Max or Lewis are that in this scenario) rather than the processional stuff most races deliver up now.

And I’m an F1 fan.

It’s the same as saying football should be a contact sport and then moaning every time one of your players doesn’t get a free kick every time he’s touched.
Not every foul has to be a booking and not every F1 incident has to lead to points deductions or grid penalties.

Your argument makes no sense. Surely running someone wide off the track is preventing proper wheel to wheel racing?

There would have been one more overtaking manoeuvre if Max hadn't run Lewis off the road because he was shit scared he was going to get overtaken.

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

Knew I was wrong to even offer a different opinion…

Max went wide, intentionally in most people’s opinion andLewis went wider still. Had he not there would undoubtedly have been a collision. Lewis decided not to take that chance and rightly so. I’ve missed no point though - you cannot get the racing that everyone says they want if every driver adheres to their own line/track. Scaletrix it has become (before they introduced lane seitching)

 

[Tredman]

I’m not ignoring it half way through. I’ve felt that all season! And the last…

I must admit Lewis does seem to be getting the rough end of the stick at the moment, but he’s had plenty go in his favour previously.

I didn’t mean you ignoring it (unless you’re a steward), but this rule has already been applied several times this season. You can’t just ignore it right now.

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

I knew your comment was aimed at the stewards and like in football we want consistency. But surely given the mismatched title seasons of recent years this is the best for ages. Let them race!

Although I do hope next seasons changes bring more cars into the park ferme equation

 

[Tredman]

I knew your comment was aimed at the stewards and like in football we want consistency. But surely given the mismatched title seasons of recent years this is the best for ages. Let them race!

Although I do hope next seasons changes bring more cars into the park ferme equation

You can't 'let them race' if you do not apply the rules fairly and equally.

 

[Nando]

Zhou in for Giovanazzi. He ain't good enough - just brings the $.

 

[The Bear]

Footage released. Doesn't even try to make the apex.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1460584835563630593

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Doesn’t even put full lock on until after he has forced Lewis off. I’d be appealing that if I were Mercedes.

 

[Law's Bus]

Doesn’t even put full lock on until after he has forced Lewis off. I’d be appealing that if I were Mercedes.

If you're understeering, putting more lock on there isn't going to help, and will only cause more damage to your tyres. It's not quite as simple as that.

Having said that, it's definitely payback for Silverstone when Lewis did the same so deserved the same penalty.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I can't wait for the new cars to bring see proper racing back so we don't get the inevitable slanging match every race over the single confrontation the current format allows. That's the biggest issue at the moment, pretty much every race is defined by a single attempt at an overtake because of how shit the cars are for actual racing. Everything has to be nursed and managed to such an extent that you just get a single all or nothing opportunity which is always going to bring out the worst in competitors.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Have a look at a shot of the steering angle for Lewis on the same corner from the lap before. He is on the racing line so the corner is less tight than for Max chucking it up the inside. Lewis has twice as much steering lock on at the apex. That’s a token effort by Max and he knew what he was doing.

 

[AndyWolves]

Merc are requesting a Right to Review

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWV5O4_NH1P/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Saying that if max had put that amount of lock on to make the corner at that speed and angle he would have found himself arse about face.

 

[AndyWolves]

I'm all for competitive racing but you can't force another driver off the road.

If max went in too hot too make the apex that's on max

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Sounds like there is a possibility of a three point deduction for Max, presumably as he should have got a five second penalty which would put him behind Bottas. I guarantee Horner fights tooth and nail against that .