The Euro 2024 Thread

[Derby Wolf]

Connor Gallagher is never the correct answer because he's fucking gash.

Had Adam Wharton been given minutes earlier in the tournament he could have been trusted to come on last night, he's a decent tackler and can make the kind of first time incisive passing to have got the Spanish facing their own goal.

Does Gallagher impact Spain over-running midfield? Let's say yes and they don't pass around him while he runs around like a demented labrador what does he offer to get us up the pitch if we can break? not a fat lot.

In bringing him on Southgate was battening down for the next 5 minutes and following 30. Dare I say it, Spain finding a winner is poetic justice.

 

[Langers]

I can’t stand Howe or how his teams play

I can't abide Howe - just way too smug and like you, I hate his gamesmanship and all that bollocks.

Southgate may have his limitations but he's incredibly likeable and has made the setup so much better. I fear Howe would change a lot of that.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Don't think you can judge Potter too much from his stint at Chelsea. Absolute basket case of a club. He'd be my choice from the realistic choices. Absolutely no way Klopp would manage England IMO.

England can afford to make Klopp the highest paid coach in world football, just like they did with Capello.

They won't though.

 

[YoungWolf]

Klopp isn’t leaving the Liverpool job a year early to manage England whatever money they offer him

 

[Johnny75]

Klopp isn’t leaving the Liverpool job a year early to manage England whatever money they offer him

Well yes, but as Nuno said...

 

[Tom Hark]

I can't abide Howe - just way too smug and like you, I hate his gamesmanship and all that bollocks.

Southgate may have his limitations but he's incredibly likeable and has made the setup so much better. I fear Howe would change a lot of that.

Yes, anyone but Howe for me. I just can't imagine wanting any team managed by him to win. Potter would be a good move both for him and for the country. His self-confidence must have been at rock bottom after Chelsea, and perhaps this is why he hasn't taken another club job yet. His record aside from trying to steer that clown car outfit speaks for itself.

 

[jd1981]

I think we have a tendency to over praise certain managers Venables, Robson and now Southgate.
Robson tournament record reads as W5 D5 L6. 86 QF, 88 group stage 90SF. The wins were Poland, Paraguay, Egypt, Belgium & Cameroon.
Played some turgid stuff in 1990 only scoring 3 goals from open play.
You can dissect Southgate’s record to knockout wins v Germany and Netherlands are his biggest two feathers in his cap.
But his eliminations are Croatia, Italy, France & Spain.
England are in a better state now than when he took over but it should be in even better shape. We’ve gone from people laughing at our early elimination to laughing at our lacklustre Final performances.
This is the time to move on, I don’t trust the FA to make a good appointment though.

 

[ROVERT47]

Agree with Klopp, there’s an argument that if a Coach of his quality had been in charge for the past few years would could’ve won our second World Cup and two Euro’s.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It's before the time of a lot of you here, but England played some good stuff in 1982 under Ron Greenwood. Destroyed the French team that made the semi final. Robson was ridiculously good in that game.

Whole thing was of course ruined by the 0-0 against Spain. Bringing on previously injured Keegan and Brooking when it was all too late. Gave West Germany one hell of a game too.

 

[Tredman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812652834220880295

 

[Del Woppio]

I'm so angry at the mentality after the equaliser. They were rocked, we were on a high and could/should have pinned them back and controlled the game. The way we sat back was outright cowardly and 100% on the manager. We were well short on the pitch, the same things that hadn't worked all tournament, shock horror, didn't work yesterday, but to find yourself level and then just invite Spain on you was fucking outrageous. He's a nice fella and has achieved par given the opposition he's faced in tournaments, but it's time to go now, and install somebody that believe in the ability of the players, and has the stones to bench Kane.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I think it's time for him to go.

But there no way GS instructed them to back off, Spain just regained control after wobbling for a bit, because of our rolling of the dice with Palmer we had little shape in central midfield. Once the momentum of scoring died, they grabbed the midfield by the scruff again, and we were holding on.

However, all that being said, it has and will be over analysed to death, but 2 lapses from Walker lead to both of their goals.

They score from our mistakes, our lapses, where as we fail with the 3 chances off the corner at the end, they are the moments in big games like this.

 

[Lycan]

I'm so angry at the mentality after the equaliser. They were rocked, we were on a high and could/should have pinned them back and controlled the game. The way we sat back was outright cowardly and 100% on the manager. We were well short on the pitch, the same things that hadn't worked all tournament, shock horror, didn't work yesterday, but to find yourself level and then just invite Spain on you was fucking outrageous. He's a nice fella and has achieved par given the opposition he's faced in tournaments, but it's time to go now, and install somebody that believe in the ability of the players, and has the stones to bench Kane.

I don't think they were rocked really, or that England were on a high. Spain just continued finding spaces and creating chances as they had done for the whole of the 2nd half before the goal.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's ironic, I was overjoyed when Rodri went off, he's one of the best players in the world, if not the best. Yet we lost any grip of the midfield immediately after he went off. It's like we knew how to play Spain with him, but not without him.

 

[AndyWolves]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812652834220880295

This says it all for me

 

[AndyWolves]

I don't think they were rocked really, or that England were on a high. Spain just continued finding spaces and creating chances as they had done for the whole of the 2nd half before the goal.

We had our tails up and it was one of the few times in the game we actually put pressure on Spain and they made a few mistakes.

We've seen first hand at Wolves when happens when you repeatedly surrender the initiative.

 

[Kenny]

Timmy S had an experience for the Final!!

Watching England vs Spain in Benidorm: Boisterous fun or final days of Rome?

Where better (or worse?) to watch England take on Spain than in Benidorm, the holiday town synonymous with Brits abroad

www.nytimes.com

 

[jd1981]

All those claiming the Nations league is a farce should note that England relegation to league B means they won’t be seeded for the WCQ draw meaning a possible meeting with Spain, Germany etc

 

[Keef]

 

[Tony Towner]

All those claiming the Nations league is a farce should note that England relegation to league B means they won’t be seeded for the WCQ draw meaning a possible meeting with Spain, Germany etc

You are catastrophising again. Europe have 16 places for the World Cup, we'll be there. Playing a meaningful game against a quality side outside of a tournament wouldn't be a bad thing anyway.