Rob Edwards - the prodigal son returns

[BillyDee]

I didn't expect GON to get the boot until our players started kicking off at the end of games. If Rob avoids that sort of situation he'll see out the season.

 

[Derby Wolf]

We didn't win a league game for 6 months under Vitor and he was still here. RE isn't getting sacked this season.

We didn't play a competitive game for 3 of those 6 months.

If we keep losing then he'll go plus Edwards won't be able to protect his reputation long enough to be someone who can be trusted to rebuild the club, his credibility would be in tatters.

 

[Hereford Wolf]

I’m guessing Rob is already scouring Premiership teams where someone who cost a lot of money has not fitted in, or older players with experience who still fancy a bit of first team football.

 

[Lycan]

I think results are only one part of the equation.

As long as his relationship with players and fans doesn't do south (as both did with VP), he'll be fine this season

How can his relationship with the fans survive if he doesn't pick up any points though? Against Palace the place emptied after the 2nd goal and for all of his posturing in front of the away end after the game yesterday it wasn't exactly a rousing reception for him. I was trying to sing his name in the first half and nobody was joining in. It won't take much to go from that to being actively hostile towards him if he keeps losing, whether that's his fault or not.

The players can go fuck themselves.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Edward’s will be here until the end of the season even if we lose every game. No point tarnishing a new manager’s reputation with an inevitable relegation. Whether he lasts longer probably depends how things go. At a guess, if we get to 20 points or more and he probably deserves to stay, less than 15 and he should be sacked. In between and it depends on performances and evidence of progression.

The mystery for me is why appointed a manager with the Championship in mind when in he failed spectacularly to turn Luton’s fortunes around after relegation.

 

[big mean bunny]

Yeah plus there is no way you can lose between now and then, and just presume everything will be different in a lower league. Ipswich finally had a bit of a turn around but the other two look way off still.

 

[Sniffer]

The mystery for me is why appointed a manager with the Championship in mind when in he failed spectacularly to turn Luton’s fortunes around after relegation.

Not really a mystery. He even considered reappointing a man who he’d sacked 11 months earlier for not being competent.

 

[Jinky]

We didn't play a competitive game for 3 of those 6 months.

If we keep losing then he'll go plus Edwards won't be able to protect his reputation long enough to be someone who can be trusted to rebuild the club, his credibility would be in tatters.

I just don't see us sacking another manager between now and the end of the season, even if we go on to lose every game, because everyone knows he was taking over a club destined to be relegated anyway.

What you want to see is some small shoots of positivity in our performances, some effort - and eventually some positive results. I think, even just from the game yesterday after he's had a week with the players, that will happen - but it won't be enough to keep us up.

I think we've all accepted we'll go down this season, so hopefully RE can bring some respectability back to the performances even if it's not enough to eventually save us - and it will give us something to work from in terms of a foundation for the Championship next season. As I say, they probably all predicted/expected that to happen when they offered him the job anyway.

 

[YoungWolf]

I just don't see us sacking another manager between now and the end of the season, even if we go on to lose every game, because everyone knows he was taking over a club destined to be relegated anyway.

What you want to see is some small shoots of positivity in our performances, some effort - and eventually some positive results. I think, even just from the game yesterday after he's had a week with the players, that will happen - but it won't be enough to keep us up.

I think we've all accepted we'll go down this season, so hopefully RE can bring some respectability back to the performances even if it's not enough to eventually save us - and it will give us something to work from in terms of a foundation for the Championship next season. As I say, they probably all predicted/expected that to happen when they offered him the job anyway.

I agree with your general points I just think that if we lose the next ten (or we draw 1/2 even and lose the rest) it’s not beyond them sacking him.

I think if he gets us to near a point per game over the duration of his games in charge with this squad he’ll have done extremely well. We do look a bit more organised it’s just so hard to see where any goals come from.

 

[sycophantia]

I agree with your general points I just think that if we lose the next ten (or we draw 1/2 even and lose the rest) it’s not beyond them sacking him.

I think if he gets us to near a point per game over the duration of his games in charge with this squad he’ll have done extremely well. We do look a bit more organised it’s just so hard to see where any goals come from.

If we lose the next 10 (even with the shitshow he's been handed) or even a couple of draws, he'll deserve the sack, no manager survives that. For what its worth, after yesterdays performance, I think we'll get at least 2 or 3 wins. Having said that I thought there were (tiny) green shoots after the Spurs and Brighton games.

 

[Derby Wolf]

As I said in the other thread, I'm not getting carried away by yesterday's performance (not that anyone is here) Villa were poor for my money and statistically they're an anomaly which continued yesterday with another long range goal. As we learnt with Lage when we went on that mental run of not conceding eventually things will revert to the average.

It felt to me that Villa thought all they need do is show up and they'd roll us over. Forest mightn't have the same individual quality as Villa but I fancy they'll give us a much harder game than yesterday. He's got to follow yesterday up with a result IMO.

 

[prawnking]

I agree with your general points I just think that if we lose the next ten (or we draw 1/2 even and lose the rest) it’s not beyond them sacking him.

I think that's judging the situation based on how a normal club is run. Jeff won't sack him this season whatever the results; he has a hard-on for Rob and has no other options at this point

 

[Lycan]

Jeff won't sack him this season whatever the results

There has to be a point where this ceases to to be the case. I don't for a second think that we'll actually lose every single game we play for the rest of this season but if we do it'd be utterly farcical even for us if he didn't get sacked. Imagine if we actually had 2 points after 38 games, Edwards had been in charge for 29 of those and hadn't even managed to coach a single draw out of this group.

In reality I think we'll probably end up on around 20 points which I'd still be pretty furious about. This season can't be a complete free hit for Edwards, he's got to show something surely. As low as we rate our squad at the moment if you look at it dispassionately it's far from the least talented squad to ever play at this level, I'm not even sure if I'd take the current Leeds or Burnley squads over ours right now. There have been far worse squads which have survived or at least given it a respectable go, just not from this ridiculous position of 2 points from 13 games.

 

[Lupo]

It felt to me that Villa thought all they need do is show up and they'd roll us over.

The commentary said similar yesterday. They showed a close up of glum faced Villa fans at 0-0 who looked like they were losing 4-0

 

[Wolfe]

He’s a joke. We are a joke.

 

[sycophantia]

I thought he was the wrong appointment at the time but I dont see who could come in and make a difference. The squad is bereft of quality, even the few decent players are a rabble atm.
Andre, Gomes and Larsen were our last few saleable players, by January we'll hardly get more than we paid for them.
The next few years are gunna be grim.
The owners have overseen a collapse that has probably never been this bad given our position a few years ago.

 

[prawnking]

Boss Rob Edwards said: "We're in the position we're in now. We don't want to die like that. So that's probably going to be the message now going forward. We don't want to go out with a whimper. In the first half, that's how it felt.

I mean, he's being honest but it sounds like he's saying what we all know here; we're already down

 

[Lycan]

I mean, he's being honest but it sounds like he's saying what we all know here; we're already down

Of course we are. Even if we had won today we'd have still been fucked. This group of players will completely capitulate with that message though, they've got no heart or pride.

It's not really his fault (yet) but really, what the fuck was he thinking?

 

[PuntsWolf]

He just wanted to move back home and not have to spend his life living in or drivong to and from Middlesbrough. I really don.t think its any deeper than that!

Even if he has no money left from his playing days or his other managerial jobs, he will make enough money from this job to never have to work again at any serious level if he didnt want to. Could always just picl up pocket money being an assitant / youth coach etc.

 

[Lupo]

"We've got to be living like a winner" - Wolves boss sends clear message to struggling side

Rob Edwards has urged his players to improve on and off the pitch and live every day 'like a winner' if they want to survive this season.

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