REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

[thehistorymakers]

Highlights how blinkered and narrow minded you are. So be it.

But right.

from the link below.


Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains.

This maxim – variously attributed to Winston Churchill, Benjamin Disraeli and Victor Hugo, among others – neatly captures the common notion that to be on the left of the political spectrum is to be young and idealistic, while to be on the right is to be older and more pragmatic. But is there any evidence for this?

In Britain, age is a strong predictor of how someone will vote in an election. Older people are more supportive of the Conservatives, while younger people more supportive of Labour, the Liberal Democrats, and more recently, the Greens. This is not a recent phenomenon.

The graph below shows the pattern of Conservative support by age-group for five elections from the last 50 years, based on data from the British Election Study. Older people are always more likely to support the Conservatives. For example, when I voted for the first time in the 1997 election, only 23% of people my age (20) voted Conservative. In contrast, 42% of people my grandmother’s age (80) supported the Conservatives.





https://www.theguardian.com/comment...more-conservative-with-age-young-old-politics

 

[Jolemai]

 

[leedswolf]

Of course they count, but in the context of 40 years time, the advice I want is from people who have solid experience. Why ask your son for his advice about the future, if there is a good chance his political views will change , when he gets married and has a family? I will listen to his opinions, but not his advice.

I didn't ask for their advice. The opposite really. My decision was based on what they felt their needs and aspirations would be and how they would be best served. As a result I voted to hopefully help them achieve.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Which is the point I was trying to make

 

[leedswolf]

And I scored them some decent shit too.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

American investment banks, what do you expect? Hoding our own against the Euro, is very important, as many British companies do a lot of business with Eu countries, as we keep being reminded. The euro has a lot more problems than Brexit, as George Soros has said recently.

You just haven't got a clue here unfortunately.

If one wants to measure the effect of Brexit then don't use the two currencies exposed to it, but maybe use one or both measured against a currency with lesser exposure to which you want to measure. Basic statistics.

And absolutely nothing to do with investment banks, American or bloody otherwise.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

And I scored them some decent shit too.

Wanker. You were saving that score for me.

 

[leedswolf]

I got plenty mate. I bought it before the currency crash . Everyone has a "share". I'm investing in Egyptian cotton next.

 

[Parkins left foot]

I didn't ask for their advice. The opposite really. My decision was based on what they felt their needs and aspirations would be and how they would be best served. As a result I voted to hopefully help them achieve.

I did ask them, though one was ambivalent as he is someone who will make his own way regardless of the barriers in front of him & with the business he runs the european element has no impact whatsoever (in essence anything more than 10 miles away - apart from a few customers who have used his services & then moved - has little impact).

The elder one was more pro, though again the firm he works for is 90% UK sales with a very limited amount of their income from european sources.

Didn't give me that much of a steer

 

[Parkins left foot]

I got plenty mate. I bought it before the currency crash ��. Everyone has a "share". I'm investing in Egyptian cotton next.

Coincidentally thats the colour I am painting my lounge, starting next week

 

[thehistorymakers]

You know how graphs work, right?

Yes, and we haven't dropped 20% against the Euro because of Brexit this year, which was my point.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

And I told you looking against the Euro was the wrong comparator which you keep bloody ignoring.

 

[thehistorymakers]

And I told you looking against the Euro was the wrong comparator which you keep bloody ignoring.

Waitttttttttt. Hold your horses. Machin put up a graph of the Euro against the Pound.

 

[thehistorymakers]

And I told you looking against the Euro was the wrong comparator which you keep bloody ignoring.

But you never mentioned anything about the Dollar in your original post. You said 20% down.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

THM, why have you posted a link about the referendum on the World War One thread...?

 

[thehistorymakers]

THM, why have you posted a link about the referendum on the World War One thread...?

Sorry Frank. I'll remove it.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

American investment banks, what do you expect? Hoding our own against the Euro, is very important, as many British companies do a lot of business with Eu countries, as we keep being reminded. The euro has a lot more problems than Brexit, as George Soros has said recently.

Yep George has said the Euro is under pressure, you must have forgotten about the other bit he said...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...pen-disintegration-george-soros-a7103946.html

 

[machin05]

Yes, and we haven't dropped 20% against the Euro because of Brexit this year, which was my point.

You said it been as low as €1.21 in the last 3 months. It clearly hasn't.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But you never mentioned anything about the Dollar in your original post. You said 20% down.

Did I have to? Crikey, sorry I didn't elucidate it quite clearly enough but I thought someone as clearly knowledgeable as you would be looking at a vaguely sensible comparator. I was clearly wrong.

 

[thehistorymakers]

You said it been as low as €1.21 in the last 3 months. It clearly hasn't.

I said,


Not 20% down from last month, maybe last year, is that right? the Pound is worth about €1.21. There have been many times in the last 3 months it has been arround that, maybe €1.25 to €1.30.I agree over the whole year, but that can't be blamed on Brexit.


Arround that, maybe €1.25-€1.26. Which it has been. The point being it isn't 20% down. it turns out that Paddy wasn't talking about the Euro,which he didn't make clear.:taunt: