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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

I looked at that ‘story’. Hung on quotes from one complete gammon wanker with nothing to suggest even a single punctuation mark is truthful
 
Stephen Fry has been praised for brushing off BBC journalist Laura Kuenssberg‘s claim about Brexit.

The actor, writer and presenter was invited to appear on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg for the latest episode of the BBC series (10 September), when the subject of Brexit arose.

Kuenssberg said to Fry: “I mean, Stephen, it’s been an extraordinary period – Covid, Brexit, all of those things.”

Fry replied: “Brexit – we must mention Brexit. The Labour Party is afraid to mention it. It was a catatstrophe, and everybody knows it deep in ther bones.”

Kuenssberg interjected: “Not everyone would agree with you,” but Fry, brushed off her response, stating: “Yes they do, they know it – of course they do. Certainly the rest of the world does.”
 
Think he's just showboating there. I like Fry and not keen on Kuenssberg but to state everyone thinks the same as him and that its a catastrophe is just nonsense. It has been a catastrophe of course but there's loads of people who don't think it has.
 
But how many of those people could present a sensible case for "no, it hasn't been a disaster"?

If I say everyone believes that 22 years ago today, two planes flew into the World Trade Center and caused it to collapse, you could point me to Matt Le Tissier and say he doesn't believe it, so by definition it's not everyone, but people like that aren't worthy of credibility. You can find Wolves fans who liked Bruno Lage. I have no idea what they are thinking, it doesn't stack up with reality.

The actual economic and political case for Brexit was extremely thin in 2015/16 and the reality of the situation has turned out just as many of us amateur commenters on here predicted, let alone what actual experts* in their field said.



*Tired of hearing from them
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
But how many of those people could present a sensible case for "no, it hasn't been a disaster"?

If I say everyone believes that 22 years ago today, two planes flew into the World Trade Center and caused it to collapse, you could point me to Matt Le Tissier and say he doesn't believe it, so by definition it's not everyone, but people like that aren't worthy of credibility. You can find Wolves fans who liked Bruno Lage. I have no idea what they are thinking, it doesn't stack up with reality.

The actual economic and political case for Brexit was extremely thin in 2015/16 and the reality of the situation has turned out just as many of us amateur commenters on here predicted, let alone what actual experts* in their field said.



*Tired of hearing from them
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He just needed to answer the question properly.
He answered a simple point with a simple answer but it was wrong.
There are definitely people who don't agree with him and it's not just a few. They're all talking bollocks of course.
I realise I'm bring a bit pedantic.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
To be honest it doesn't bother me.

It's a million miles closer to the truth than Farage saying black is white, which the BBC have granted untold airtime to for over a decade unchallenged.
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I mean its not going to ruin my life, just wish his answer had been, "no not everyone will agree with me but their opinion doesn't count cos theyre thick cunts"
 
First, the UK’s failure to control EU imports in the same way as it does on other trading partners could be deemed as giving the EU unjustified preferential treatment and, therefore, violate WTO rules.

Second, there is alarm among some industries, such as the veterinary sector and domestic food producers, that the absence of full controls is making the UK vulnerable to food fraud and animal disease.

Third, stricter controls on UK exports to the EU compared to EU imports into the UK are putting British domestic industries and suppliers at a disadvantage. This is because it creates an ‘uneven playing field’ for British businesses, such as farmers, as they are subject to expensive and time-consuming checks on their exports to the EU, while competing businesses in the EU can export to the UK without similar barriers.

ukandeu.ac.uk

The UK’s border with the EU - UK in a changing Europe

Peter Jurkovic and Joël Reland explain why controls are needed at the GB-EU border, what controls the UK plans to introduce, and why they have been delayed.
ukandeu.ac.uk ukandeu.ac.uk
 
leedswolf said:
First, the UK’s failure to control EU imports in the same way as it does on other trading partners could be deemed as giving the EU unjustified preferential treatment and, therefore, violate WTO rules.

Second, there is alarm among some industries, such as the veterinary sector and domestic food producers, that the absence of full controls is making the UK vulnerable to food fraud and animal disease.

Third, stricter controls on UK exports to the EU compared to EU imports into the UK are putting British domestic industries and suppliers at a disadvantage. This is because it creates an ‘uneven playing field’ for British businesses, such as farmers, as they are subject to expensive and time-consuming checks on their exports to the EU, while competing businesses in the EU can export to the UK without similar barriers.

ukandeu.ac.uk

The UK’s border with the EU - UK in a changing Europe

Peter Jurkovic and Joël Reland explain why controls are needed at the GB-EU border, what controls the UK plans to introduce, and why they have been delayed.
ukandeu.ac.uk ukandeu.ac.uk
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It's almost as though our people in the negotiating team were completely useless, who'd have thought.
 
Tossers of the highest order. One gets a house in the lord’s facilitated by a bigger tosser who ends up a multi millionaire. They just didn’t give a shit of the damage they did to the country.

Lord Frost says he and Boris Johnson 'always hoped' Northern Ireland protocol would eventually collapse​

 
I'm not sure if they're too stupid to realise or too self-important to care.

In any walk of life, if you are proven to obviously negotiate in bad faith then fairly soon you will find that no-one will ever negotiate with you at all.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
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In any walk of life, if you are proven to obviously negotiate in bad faith then fairly soon you will find that no-one will ever negotiate with you at all.
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Doesn't matter now though does it, they're sorted for life - in the terms they want to be.
 
Elephant Pyjamas said:
Doesn't matter now though does it, they're sorted for life - in the terms they want to be.
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They were stupidly rich men anyway (or at least, had both earned enough to be stupidly rich).

Frost is a piece of shit, he's nearly as bad as Johnson.

As for Johnson, he has nothing like the legacy he wanted, or the trappings he craved. Good.
 
Stuck in a marriage where he expressed “buyers regrets” ages ago and two more kids to support that every one knows only exist to try and create distraction stories from what a massive arse their corpulent father was making of everything.

Hopefully the Daily Heil bin off his column and the publisher actually forces the cunt to write his book on whoever it was that he is contractually obliged to deliver or sues him for the advance back.
 
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