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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

Cyber-_-man said:
Will it bollocks! Where is there any benefit in that to tories who want to make money?

My son, who runs a farm and farm shop business is thinking almost opposite. He thinks that there will be a British is best upsurge in farm products to get the country buying British. It’s happened before so he may have a point. He however has always been a Tory boy
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Buy British doesn't work. I've been involved in a consumer survey at a previous business which demonstrated the point.
Q Would you look to buy British over a foreign alternative?
A Overwhelming yes
Q Would you pay a premium to do so?
A Overwhelming no

Supermarkets will source the lowest priced product because it's what their customers want. Farm shops may do well in what is a niche industry, but overall British farming won't
 
Well rejoice, when the trade tariffs are sorted, British products will be cheaper!(?)
 
Prices will either rise as they need to compete with the cheap shit from America will mean that farmers are forced out of business and thus reducing our overall supply capability, or if that doesn't make the agreement and/or tarrifs increase the cost of importing then there'll be an inflationary pressure on domestic produce anyway, as we can't produce anywhere near enough to satisfy our own demand. Not to include the effects on pricing that I expect from the recruitment challenges an end to FOM will cause in agriculture and food production facilities
 
Apart from that everything in the agricultural garden is rosy.

I mean, who could have seen this coming?
 
Tony Towner said:
Buy British doesn't work. I've been involved in a consumer survey at a previous business which demonstrated the point.
Q Would you look to buy British over a foreign alternative?
A Overwhelming yes
Q Would you pay a premium to do so?
A Overwhelming no

Supermarkets will source the lowest priced product because it's what their customers want. Farm shops may do well in what is a niche industry, but overall British farming won't
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Same as so many other things. Free range chicken, cask ale etc.
 
There are very few goods where demand increases when you put the price up. They need to be perceived as luxury goods within their market. That doesn’t mean that they have to be expensive. The classic example taught to every economics student is babycham.
 
I am still confused.


I am a British farmer and currently I have to set aside a field for which I receive a subsidy of about 50-75% of what I could make if I planted it. I cant grow food on there under EU rules so there will be no increase on a food mountain.

Now I am paid less subsidy , but I dont have to set the field aside. So I choose not to get the subsidy and plant the field making 100% of the money on my crop as there are no EU rules on how much food I can supply to adhere to. However as every farmer is now doing this prices fall thanks to the rule of competition/ supply and demand. I as a farmer dont lose any money but the consumer benefits as the product is cheaper as more is available, all British grown.

I am completely missing something here.
 
Cyber-_-man said:
I am still confused.


I am a farmer and currently I have to set aside a field for which I receive a subsidy of about 50-75% of what I could make if I planted it. I cant grow food on there under EU rules so there will be no increase on a food mountain.

Now I am paid less subsidy , but I dont have to set the field aside. So I choose not to get the subsidy and plant the field making 100% of the money on my crop . However as every farmer is now doing this proces fall thanks to the rule of competition/ supply and demand. I as a farmer dont lose any money but the consumer benefits as the product is cheaper as more is available, all British grown.

I am completely missing something here.
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Yeah you fibber, you aren't a farmer...
 
Cyber-_-man said:
I am still confused.


I am a British farmer and currently I have to set aside a field for which I receive a subsidy of about 50-75% of what I could make if I planted it. I cant grow food on there under EU rules so there will be no increase on a food mountain.

Now I am paid less subsidy , but I dont have to set the field aside. So I choose not to get the subsidy and plant the field making 100% of the money on my crop as there are no EU rules on how much food I can supply to adhere to. However as every farmer is now doing this prices fall thanks to the rule of competition/ supply and demand. I as a farmer dont lose any money but the consumer benefits as the product is cheaper as more is available, all British grown.

I am completely missing something here.
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I guess there's a hell of a lot more produce coming in from the EU than it is possible to grow extra on the bits of land UK farmers have set aside so your supply/demand principle works the opposite way to your vision.
 
50,000 in six months :icon_lol:

Ok, so that's over 2,000 recruits a week. Over 400 a day. Over 50 an hour. From now, every single working day for the entire next six months.

Better get cracking then because that definitely seems doable.
 
By the way this will cost about £1.5bn p/a in wages. All to satisfy er, what exactly?
 
We've had four years to sort this shit out,whys it a surprise all of a sudden? You have to wonder if the government thought it wouldn't come to this point,but it's more likely incompetence
 
They're idiots.

Ol' Micropenis himself IDS has only just realised that we have no trade negotiators as we haven't negotiated a trade deal of our own for 40+ years, so this might prove a bit of a problem fairly soon.
 
Got to use those two aircraft carriers and the new sub hunter planes for something,it's the 70s COD wars all over again
 
Have the aircraft carriers actually got aircraft yet..?
 
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