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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

I was listening to that live on my way into the office.

A very sad indictment of where we currently stand as a country.
 
These people out there generally believe that we can't:
Deport terrorists because of the EU.
Control our borders, because of the EU.
There are 2 million illegal immigrants here because of the EU.
We can't make our own laws, because of the EU.

If it wasn't for the complete and utter destruction of the economy that no deal would bring to the country, I'd be tempted to let it happen so that all of these bigots could see for themselves that it miraculously, wasn't because of the EU.
 
If I recall correctly the reason the first attempt to deport Abu Hamza was overturned was because Theresa May - remember her? - hadn't followed UK Law. So the reality is the European Court helped us achieve sovrinty, innit!
 
Seems like the Government think they can suspend the law around no deal once passed for a period of time which takes us beyond October 31st as per John Major
 
Not sure she will after the last time. If this wanker bulldozes this through he should expect very serious civil unrest as an absolute minimum.
 
Not sure she will after the last time. If this wanker bulldozes this through he should expect very serious civil unrest as an absolute minimum.

If the last few weeks have taught us anything its that we are in dire need of constitutional reform. One of the biggest failures of Blair was in failing to deal with this. The queen wont save us.
 
I was listening to the Briefing Room on Radio 4 last night talking about constitutional reform and the experts on the panel (who were all very good although I couldn't tell you who they were) decided unanimously that constitutional reform and a written constitution was a bad thing and was not needed with our current system. Indeed, our current system was far better than written constitutions precisely because it could get amended and parliaments can challenge all laws.

There was a good segment on referendum and the procedure of the one held for the Brexit question and they thought it was botched from the start. The panel were of the opinion that the referendum should have been in two parts and were at a loss as to why this was not done. The first part was to ask Parliament the question and get Parliament to vote on leaving the EU (not invoking Article 50 but actually leaving) and the second part was to then get this result ratified by the people. This would've mitigated the no deal/ deal scenario as the people would've known what leaving meant before voting on it. The panel was split on the percentage of the vote needed to win with one suggesting it should be 2/3rds (66.6%) to leave the EU.

There was condemnation of Cameron and his procedure for doing it arse about face and it is largely his fault, in their opinion, the whole thing has come to the point where we are now.
 
I was listening to the Briefing Room on Radio 4 last night talking about constitutional reform and the experts on the panel (who were all very good although I couldn't tell you who they were) decided unanimously that constitutional reform and a written constitution was a bad thing and was not needed with our current system. Indeed, our current system was far better than written constitutions precisely because it could get amended and parliaments can challenge all laws.

There was a good segment on referendum and the procedure of the one held for the Brexit question and they thought it was botched from the start. The panel were of the opinion that the referendum should have been in two parts and were at a loss as to why this was not done. The first part was to ask Parliament the question and get Parliament to vote on leaving the EU (not invoking Article 50 but actually leaving) and the second part was to then get this result ratified by the people. This would've mitigated the no deal/ deal scenario as the people would've known what leaving meant before voting on it. The panel was split on the percentage of the vote needed to win with one suggesting it should be 2/3rds (66.6%) to leave the EU.

There was condemnation of Cameron and his procedure for doing it arse about face and it is largely his fault, in their opinion, the whole thing has come to the point where we are now.

Might have to take a listen back to that on BBC Sounds, thanks.
 
I wonder what happened to the last regime that put posters up in school about populism and nationalism?

Any answers Herr Paul?
 
I wonder what happened to the last regime that put posters up in school about populism and nationalism?

Any answers Herr Paul?

To be fair I don't know which was the last regime but I should imagine this kind of thing was after the Fascists ones ? Eh comrade :)

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I reckon our Portuguese contingent might have something to say too
 
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