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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

Kenny said:
Can you stop being a massive tit and read what people are saying. Stop deciding what I or anyone else on here thinks. You moan about being called a WUM but your behaviour today is that of one.

You state your view/opinion on what people did in the GE (fair enough, no issues there)
People on here tell you no your view is wrong based on pretty solid facts (I.e there actually reasons)
You then carry on telling people no you are wrong you did this because of this reason inside my head over and over and over.

Tiresome and frankly if it were up to me I would either deleting you or every thread you take over with $#@! you post deciding what people are doing.

You are a $#@!ing WUM, so do us all the pleasure of sticking up for your principles (you know the time you said you leaving the forum and not coming back...then came back because I presume Jesus & Juan finally snapped and told you to stop talking to them so back online you came)
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Kenny it rather was the most important thing for you it wasn't. If enough people thought it was the most important thing, they could have voted LD''s. As only 7% voted LD''s, I think it is a fair statement to say it was not the most important thing when they cast their vote. If it had of been, they would have cast their vote differently.
I think that is a fair assumption and is not in any way meant to be a wind up.
 
Kenny said:
Can you stop being a massive tit and read what people are saying. Stop deciding what I or anyone else on here thinks. You moan about being called a WUM but your behaviour today is that of one.

You state your view/opinion on what people did in the GE (fair enough, no issues there)
People on here tell you no your view is wrong based on pretty solid facts (I.e there actually reasons)
You then carry on telling people no you are wrong you did this because of this reason inside my head over and over and over.

Tiresome and frankly if it were up to me I would either deleting you or every thread you take over with $#@! you post deciding what people are doing.

You are a $#@!ing WUM, so do us all the pleasure of sticking up for your principles (you know the time you said you leaving the forum and not coming back...then came back because I presume Jesus & Juan finally snapped and told you to stop talking to them so back online you came)
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No, I came back because of personal messages that said I had been treated unfairly and not to leave the forum.

Can we just agree to disagree on the other?. I won't change your mind and just move on?
 
thehistorymakers said:
They don't want a second referendum. If it was that important to them, they could have voted for a party who had a second referendum in their manifesto, the LD'S. They didn't, or only 7% thought it was important enough.
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Well, you know, some people might have thought things like NHS, schools, etc. You do make bullshit points and constantly bang the same bullshit drum.
 
Not agreeing on anything . You can of course ignore what folk have said and move on and talk about other shit instead.
 
thehistorymakers said:
Kenny it rather was the most important thing for you it wasn't. If enough people thought it was the most important thing, they could have voted LD''s. As only 7% voted LD''s, I think it is a fair statement to say it was not the most important thing when they cast their vote. If it had of been, they would have cast their vote differently.
I think that is a fair assumption and is not in any way meant to be a wind up.
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Isn't this exactly what everyone has been telling you, all day it seems. That Brexit wasn't the most important issue to them this election. I voted remain, think it's a stupid decision that we are leaving, and cannot see how we prosper at all from any deal, yet there were more important things in this election than Brexit - hopefully this means you can stop with your 84% nonsense now.
 
Kenny said:
Not agreeing on anything . You can of course ignore what folk have said and move on and talk about other $#@! instead.
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I don't think I have said anything that isn't logical.
You are saying you can vote or not vote for a party for many different reasons. I agree. From that I conclude if you vote for a party because of the NHS and not because they support Brexit, I agree. From that I can conclude logically that Brexit is not the most important issue to you, otherwise you would vote for a party that put staying in the EU in their manifesto.
Paddy had a perfectly good reason for not voting LD, because of his work and supporting of group. He had principles and made a decision on that, I understand that.

I am not say why people voted, I am saying if they voted Labour and they support remain, then they did it because other things are more important to them than Brexit. It doesn't mean they support leaving, it means they think other things are more important or that the decision has now been made. I respect everything about all those decisions.
That is why I make the conclusion if you voted Labour or Tory and wanted to leave the EU, you voted because the EU is not the biggest issue any longer for you.( people in general you ).

I move on from this now and sorry if I have offended anyone.



Ok
 
To use a footballing analogy; if Nuno were to come out and say all of the following this week:

- We are actively looking to sign a goalkeeper, a left back, two central midfielders and two strikers
- All of these players will be technically adept and signed with a specific role in mind
- We will look to play attractive, attacking football with an emphasis on keeping possession
- We will make at least one signing on the same level as Helder Costa
- Helder Costa is not leaving
- We're getting rid of Doherty, Lonergan, Mason, Gladon, Saville and Ebanks-Landell
- Dave Edwards was a bit of a hero for this club last season, scored 10 goals, is an all round nice chap and therefore there's no chance we're selling him

Then I imagine he'd get widespread approval for all that. He might even get 84% of the fans backing what he says. That would not mean that 84% of Wolves fans think that actually Dave Edwards is pretty good and all the stick he's got on and off for the last nine and a half years was wrong, we should never have doubted him. It would mean that all the other stuff outweighs him staying. And regardless, he was going to stay anyway, he's under contract, doesn't want to leave and no-one will buy him. It's an inevitability.

I'm pretty sure you already do understand this but just to underline it...

It is pretty discourteous when people take the time to actually explain their own personal reasons for their individual vote and you tell them that isn't what they think.
 
MARKakaJIM said:
On some other forums the ignore function doesn't even stretch to Tapatalk, not sure about here.



Accepting that something is happening doesn't mean that you don't think it'll be a bad outcome.

If I slipped off the edge of a hundred storey building then I'd soon accept that there was no way for me to make it back to the safety of the roof, but I'd sure as hell know there was no positive outcome for me at the bottom. People haven't warmed to the concept of Brexit en masse, you probably could've done with that correction a few days ago but better late than never, but they've accepted the result and are resigned to their fate. Sure some diehard anti-Brexit souls will battle on and fruitlessly throw their vote at the Lib Dems clinging to the hope of a second referendum but most know that that would just be a waste of time, voting for LD that is rather than a second referendum, they're just never going to get into power to enact that policy anyway.

The election was for all intents and purposes post-Brexit, the argument is over for majority of people, it doesn't matter if they voted leave or remain, they've accepted the outcome and voted in this election based on a completely different argument. That doesn't mean they don't think Brexit will hurt the UK.
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I don't disagree with any of that.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
To use a footballing analogy; if Nuno were to come out and say all of the following this week:

- We are actively looking to sign a goalkeeper, a left back, two central midfielders and two strikers
- All of these players will be technically adept and signed with a specific role in mind
- We will look to play attractive, attacking football with an emphasis on keeping possession
- We will make at least one signing on the same level as Helder Costa
- Helder Costa is not leaving
- We're getting rid of Doherty, Lonergan, Mason, Gladon, Saville and Ebanks-Landell
- Dave Edwards was a bit of a hero for this club last season, scored 10 goals, is an all round nice chap and therefore there's no chance we're selling him

Then I imagine he'd get widespread approval for all that. He might even get 84% of the fans backing what he says. That would not mean that 84% of Wolves fans think that actually Dave Edwards is pretty good and all the stick he's got on and off for the last nine and a half years was wrong, we should never have doubted him. It would mean that all the other stuff outweighs him staying. And regardless, he was going to stay anyway, he's under contract, doesn't want to leave and no-one will buy him. It's an inevitability.

I'm pretty sure you already do understand this but just to underline it...

It is pretty discourteous when people take the time to actually explain their own personal reasons for their individual vote and you tell them that isn't what they think.
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Please read my post above Dan. 8148.
 
leedswolf said:
Do I detect the smell of burning martyr?
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No. I stand for my principles and do it without insults. I apologise if I have said something that could have been taken the wrong way and respect other people's point of view, without insults.
Sometimes I can get on my own nerves repeating the same thing, that is when it is to do with Brexit it is usually 6 against 1. I am not complaining about that, like someone said to me in person from this forum, don't take things to heart.
I haven't got anything personal against anyone and have grown to like maybe even respect a few posters from here, who I have had some battles with over the years.

No complaints from me. I am not a martyr and last time I checked, I wasn't burning.

Hahaha
 
thehistorymakers said:
Many people voted Labour because they believe in their policies. I myself did this. However if you are a remain supporter and you voted Labour, it means you accept that it is over with and we are leaving without a second referendum and also that the outcome won't be so catastrophic as people said it was going to be.

Why would you vote for something that you thought would be catastrophic? Obviously you wouldn't, would you?
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FFS. I didn't vote for something I thought was catastrophic, hence why I voted remain in the REFERENDUM. This year was a GENERAL ELECTION, emphasis on the GENERAL.

I do not want Brexit to happen. I never have. I voted remain. However, though the outcome of the referendum is not a binding decision, I do not think there will be another referendum.

Let me put it this simply - had Labour said they would hold another referendum I STILL WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THEM. And a few on here have also made that clear. What is so difficult to understand about that?
 
YoungWolf said:
FFS. I didn't vote for something I thought was catastrophic, hence why I voted remain in the REFERENDUM. This year was a GENERAL ELECTION, emphasis on the GENERAL.

I do not want Brexit to happen. I never have. I voted remain. However, though the outcome of the referendum is not a binding decision, I do not think there will be another referendum.

Let me put it this simply - had Labour said they would hold another referendum I STILL WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THEM. And a few on here have also made that clear. What is so difficult to understand about that?
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Done to death now, but the financial markets that say Brexit will be catastrophic, have also said if Corbyn got in to power, it would also be catastrophic for the economy. You could at least say I am consistent.
I voted for him because I believe he is the only leader who gives a shit about people.
 
Sigh. That wasn't the discussion we were having though, was it?
 
Corbyn's proposals would be good for the economy. It's the potential borrowing that has some knickers in a twist.
 
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