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REFERENDUM RESULTS AND DISCUSSION THREAD

ProgWolf said:
For example, if you voted Leave and you were talking to a family member who voted to Remain, it wouldn't get personal or abusive and we might hold our tongue and be more polite perhaps, even if we strongly disagreed. It would be a civil conversation. We may even concede ground on some points and not argue for the sake of arguing
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You weren't at my mother in laws on Boxing Day!!!
 
thehistorymakers said:
I was against the house of Lords before Brexit and would have been against the elected house voting twice to remain and remain winning the referendum, only to have Lords say, we are blocking all the democratic votes, we are saying the UK must leave.
I honestly don't change my opinion according to circumstances.
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Didn't you know the rules before you voted? The House of Lords will also have agreed to the referendum bill. It really is irrelevant whether you agree with the House of Lords or not, as of this day they remain an integral part of our democracy. The democracy you voted to take back control of.

Despite this being explained to you, rather than back down you suggested that those who were explaining it to you were somehow agreeing that the Lords "should" block Brexit - and while they could, with the exception of Paddy, nobody else has argued that they should. Yet still you bring it up again. And again. And again.

It isn't your point of view that is your downfall, it is the manner in which you post. This particular issue should have had a line drawn under it last night but you either can't or won't accept a reality when it is put there right in front of you. It is why you annoy so many posters and it is why you think you are being victimised. Moderate your own behaviour before calling out on everyone else.
 
ProgWolf said:
For the second time on here, I would like to combine Politics and Beer.

So far, apart from posts on The Wolves, I've been on threads on here about Films, Food, Music, Jokes and Beer and it was all good natured. No-one gets wound up or confrontational if someone doesn't like a film or a beer that someone else likes, but as we have seen, the Referendum result has split the country and even families ? I always think an unwritten rule for a Forum should be, to treat it like you were in the pub, talking to one of the family ?

For example, if you voted Leave and you were talking to a family member who voted to Remain, it wouldn't get personal or abusive and we might hold our tongue and be more polite perhaps, even if we strongly disagreed. It would be a civil conversation. We may even concede ground on some points and not argue for the sake of arguing ?

If there were no political threads on here, I imagine everyone could talk all day about our love of Wolves, Beer, Films, Music etc. That seems to change when politics rears it's ugly head ? Does it really matter that much which way we voted in the Referendum ? But I have to say, this thread on Brexit is quite polite compared to some others out there.

My God I sound like someone from ACAS or Marriage Guidance.
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I like you already. Welcome !
 
ProgWolf said:
For the second time on here, I would like to combine Politics and Beer.

So far, apart from posts on The Wolves, I've been on threads on here about Films, Food, Music, Jokes and Beer and it was all good natured. No-one gets wound up or confrontational if someone doesn't like a film or a beer that someone else likes, but as we have seen, the Referendum result has split the country and even families ? I always think an unwritten rule for a Forum should be, to treat it like you were in the pub, talking to one of the family ?

For example, if you voted Leave and you were talking to a family member who voted to Remain, it wouldn't get personal or abusive and we might hold our tongue and be more polite perhaps, even if we strongly disagreed. It would be a civil conversation. We may even concede ground on some points and not argue for the sake of arguing ?

If there were no political threads on here, I imagine everyone could talk all day about our love of Wolves, Beer, Films, Music etc. That seems to change when politics rears it's ugly head ? Does it really matter that much which way we voted in the Referendum ? But I have to say, this thread on Brexit is quite polite compared to some others out there.

My God I sound like someone from ACAS or Marriage Guidance.
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Good post Prog. I wouldn't take this thread as represenative of here (please), it has unfortunatley turned into a bit of circular argument with no end in sight. That said, although i was / am a remainer. there are some good posts from leavers such as Cyber.
 
leedswolf said:
Or at my parents during the miners strike!!
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I know what you mean. Arthur Scargill was absolutely right. But the Tories cleverly put Yorkshire against Nottinghamshire and then of course we had the wonderful Roy Link, oh God don't start me !

Would love to stay a while but Bathams is calling and Paddington knows what that feels like !

Later's.
 
Ah yes. Mr Lynk the inaugural UDM President. The guy who later felt 'betrayed by the Government'. Join the fucking queue.
 
tredman said:
Good post Prog. I wouldn't take this thread as represenative of here (please), it has unfortunatley turned into a bit of circular argument with no end in sight. That said, although i was / am a remainer. there are some good posts from leavers such as Cyber.
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Which I think means not by the THM'S. Tredman, I like some of your posts and agree with you on quite a few things. Forget about me as a target, it might help stop the infighting and circular nature of many threads.
I have held an OLIVE branch out, since this new format has been set up. Give it a chance please, I am trying to.
 
They have to be independent to fulfill their function surely?
 
ProgWolf said:
For the second time on here, I would like to combine Politics and Beer.

So far, apart from posts on The Wolves, I've been on threads on here about Films, Food, Music, Jokes and Beer and it was all good natured. No-one gets wound up or confrontational if someone doesn't like a film or a beer that someone else likes, but as we have seen, the Referendum result has split the country and even families ? I always think an unwritten rule for a Forum should be, to treat it like you were in the pub, talking to one of the family ?

For example, if you voted Leave and you were talking to a family member who voted to Remain, it wouldn't get personal or abusive and we might hold our tongue and be more polite perhaps, even if we strongly disagreed. It would be a civil conversation. We may even concede ground on some points and not argue for the sake of arguing ?

If there were no political threads on here, I imagine everyone could talk all day about our love of Wolves, Beer, Films, Music etc. That seems to change when politics rears it's ugly head ? Does it really matter that much which way we voted in the Referendum ? But I have to say, this thread on Brexit is quite polite compared to some others out there.

My God I sound like someone from ACAS or Marriage Guidance.
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Try the World War One thread. I only have myself to disagree with on there....!!
 
The Saturday Boy said:
Didn't you know the rules before you voted? The House of Lords will also have agreed to the referendum bill. It really is irrelevant whether you agree with the House of Lords or not, as of this day they remain an integral part of our democracy. The democracy you voted to take back control of.

Despite this being explained to you, rather than back down you suggested that those who were explaining it to you were somehow agreeing that the Lords "should" block Brexit - and while they could, with the exception of Paddy, nobody else has argued that they should. Yet still you bring it up again. And again. And again.

It isn't your point of view that is your downfall, it is the manner in which you post. This particular issue should have had a line drawn under it last night but you either can't or won't accept a reality when it is put there right in front of you. It is why you annoy so many posters and it is why you think you are being victimised. Moderate your own behaviour before calling out on everyone else.
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Yes, but if you read a few posts back, Tony asked me the question about the house of Lords. I answered his original question. I didn't bring it up again!
 
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