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thehistorymakers said:
I have complete empathy with anyone who voted remain, because they were happy with life as it was and were worried that a change could mess things up for them. I would hope that, that same person would understand why the people who voted to change things, as the status quo, was not offering them or their families, solutions or hope for the future of them and their families.
I suppose you can understand the anger of the remainers, as they now fear for their future, where if the people who voted Brexit had lost, they would have carried on having no future.
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Just a string of meaningless generalisations that avoid any actual analysis, ideas or opinion. I have no idea what you voted for or why you voted for it, you have no idea what I voted for and why I voted for it - simply dressing it up as a binary in/out equation may work for you but not me so I struggle to see how you could have any empathy with me let alone complete empathy.

I was someone who started off intending to vote out and the out campaign changed my vote. Empathise that.
 
Always an interesting thread this one but King Nigel on QT now which is far more entertaining.
 
If cunt soup can be entertaining. Don't ever moan about BBC anti brexit leanings with that oxygen thief on there.
 
MARKakaJIM said:
How does Brexit provide them a more positive future?

It's all well and good feeling hard done by, getting sick of things and voting in protest but as many others have said the better option for this has already been and gone in the previous general election. The decisions which have gone against large chunks of society have been made by UK governments by and large, not forced upon them by the EU, people have voted for a change that they know little to no detail of.

It's like a kid being sick of never getting their way, one day they snap and give their mom an earful but then it turns out it was always their dad putting his foot down saying no to everything so now they're still not getting their way but have two people $#@!ting on them from above instead of one.
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I agree with this and what DW said 100%.

People voting to leave the EU in areas where they'll end up being worse off just seems so illogical that voters cannot have understood what they were voting for
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
If $#@! soup can be entertaining. Don't ever moan about BBC anti brexit leanings with that oxygen thief on there.
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Spot on about where brexit is heading though. He can read the backsliders in parliament like a book.
 
Audience full of non productive people tonight. Much better last week 'up North'.
What you'd expect I suppose.
 
Jolemai said:
Why? Because she changed her mind over a leave vote when she realised the NHS claim was an outright lie?
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No because she doesn't rule out increasing taxes or national insurance for the lower paid.
If she wants to raise money then she should be ramping up import duty on Chinese goods (imposing a tax on slavery) and giving our own people a chance to work.
Oh no, I forgot Tesco's, Branson, Nike and the rest wouldn't like it.
 
Britain and the west in general stand no chance of economic survival in the global scheme of things these days without major monetary and political intervention from our governments. I can't see it happening because they can't divorce themselves from their big business paymasters. Personal comfort and greed at the expense of their own people and country.
On that happy note I'm off to bed.
 
arklowolf said:
Britain and the west in general stand no chance of economic survival in the global scheme of things these days without major monetary and political intervention from our governments. I can't see it happening because they can't divorce themselves from their big business paymasters. Personal comfort and greed at the expense of their own people and country.
On that happy note I'm off to bed.
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I don't disagree with any of that. The solutions to most of our problems are actually fairly straightforward but it would mean govts not putting the interests of big business first. If we have a more equal society though we'll become Greece and then all our children would die or something.
 
arklowolf said:
No because she doesn't rule out increasing taxes or national insurance for the lower paid.
If she wants to raise money then she should be ramping up import duty on Chinese goods (imposing a tax on slavery) and giving our own people a chance to work.
Oh no, I forgot Tesco's, Branson, Nike and the rest wouldn't like it.
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Hmmmm. Okay. So how will that work with the utopian target of free trade with China to replace that with the EU we have now?
 
arklowolf said:
Britain and the west in general stand no chance of economic survival in the global scheme of things these days without major monetary and political intervention from our governments. I can't see it happening because they can't divorce themselves from their big business paymasters. Personal comfort and greed at the expense of their own people and country.
On that happy note I'm off to bed.
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How do you square that with your support for Nigel Farage - who a couple of weeks ago had a party held for him paid for by billionaires?

And if you look at who has bankrolled UKIP over the years - Arron Banks, Richard Desmond, Stuart Wheeler - all were/are very rich men.

The greatest trick UKIP ever pulled was convincing the working class they're on their side.
 
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