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Pre-Season Fixture thread (22/23)

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YoungWolf said:
First half against Leicester we were pretty awful, though should have scored on the break when Adama missed the one on one. Decent second half but not amazing, struggled to create too much.

Spurs game some good football but again missed the one big chance we had. Struggled to create much more.

Battered United but missed some really good chances.
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Yeah the first half against Leicester wasn’t good, sat deep and weren’t really in it. The Adama chance came out of nowhere.

Went behind and then had to try and play a bit second half and Leicester probably showed us too much respect. But mainly all our threat again through Adama running fast, which on paper is a good chance but it’s just not when it’s him. Tame side foot at Schmeichel and poor decision making neither shooting or picking out Raul.

Agreed on Spurs. We looked threatening/entertaining but didn’t make Lloris work.

Man Utd was just a joke. Trincao cleared off the line, Saiss heading at De Gea and then smashing at him. Then concede an awful goal on multiple levels.
 
It doesn't matter how good we were or weren't. The fact is we looked like a team that wanted to commit men forwards and actually attack teams.

If we can get a bit more of that this season rather than sitting and trying to counter and creating bugger all, then I'm all for it.
 
At the time I was just pleased that we didn't look like a dreadful League One team as we had for most of pre-season.

We did try to attack but it didn't look like any kind of joined up philosophy to me. A fair few chances came on the counter which we've always been able to do against the better teams. We played higher but we know now that's because of how Sa plays more than anything else.

Nor was there some huge shift in mentality directly afterwards. Watford we dominated without looking like scoring for 75 minutes, then we were just awful against Brentford with joke Sunday League tactics after going behind. At which point we'd won one, lost four and scored one goal ourselves with the other being an own goal. We couldn't carry on exactly the same, so we didn't.

Man Utd away last season is right up there in our best performances of the 2018-present era. It wasn't balls out attacking or whatever people are wishing will happen. It was just like the good bits of Nuno (of which there were many).

Lage gets a bit of a free pass in the very short term despite how crap huge parts of last season were (genuinely dreadful at points, and for the first time ever for us in the Premier League, we earned quite a few points that we definitely didn't deserve) and how increasingly unconvincing he personally came across because well, he's still here, none of us can change that and it isn't very healthy to actively dislike a manager going into a new campaign. He's got a hell of a lot to fix though, and quickly. Blindly pretending that actually he's a really good attacking coach doesn't really help anyone, because he hasn't shown that in the slightest.
 
The Bear said:
It doesn't matter how good we were or weren't. The fact is we looked like a team that wanted to commit men forwards and actually attack teams.

If we can get a bit more of that this season rather than sitting and trying to counter and creating bugger all, then I'm all for it.
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This didn’t actually happen though and was also more down to circumstance. As said, against Leicester we weren’t in it and only attacked when we were losing (and they let us).

Spurs we were a goal down after 15 mins, and with Nuno being Nuno, they sat back. Being our first home game probably contributed as well, but it was just a “Give it to Traore” game really which is entertaining but didn’t create a goal.

United we played a lot on the counter and most our good work (again through Traore) was him on the counter running at a hapless Fred.

It was certainly “attacking” Im comparison to what came the rest of the year but tied in with Traores brief purple patch (with no tangible result), the crowd being up for it In a New season And the status of the games (Nuno return, Man United).
 
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Without going too much into those 3 games they all demonstrated a pattern which has been consistent right throughout the 4 PL seasons - wasteful at one end,.concede soft goals at the other. Perhaps all none Top 6 teams do the latter, I just don't focus on them, but the poor finishing or weak final ball is something we have to fix or however we set up will be pretty peripheral in the grand scheme of things
 
Love a bit of confirmation bias in the morning.
 
Fucking hell, i know it's a still, but that looks a bad challenge as the ball has gone.
 
Taking a lot from 1 still picture aren't we?

No doubt an image out there when Karl Henry did a fair and pretty nothing challenge at Fulham and snapped the lads leg in 2 places and it looks like a shocker.

That said, agree with all the anti Burnley comments...
 
The clips of the goals weren't even at half pace so it wouldn't be in keeping with the wider game based on those
 
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