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Tony Towner said:
and then got sacked for it.
If he thought he'd be binned for a midtable finish do you think he'd have spent £37m on an 18 year old for the future or signed players for the present? I think everyone can agree that money being spend on an AM and a CH would have been better for 2020/1
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It’s not neccesssirirly the what, it’s the why and the how. We’ve underperformed both in terms of results, performances and aesthetics. A lot of that can be attributed to Nuno, some things out of his control.

The alternative is give him a wad of cash this summer, then either tread water, progress with attacking football or decline further. Two of those outcomes are a wasted season which result in him being sacked with a cloud over his head.

Whereas treading water with a new manager with a new style is a good result, like Klopp starting out at Liverpool.
 
PuntsWolf said:
It’s not neccesssirirly the what, it’s the why and the how. We’ve underperformed both in terms of results, performances and aesthetics. A lot of that can be attributed to Nuno, some things out of his control.

The alternative is give him a wad of cash this summer, then either tread water, progress with attacking football or decline further. Two of those outcomes are a wasted season which result in him being sacked with a cloud over his head.

Whereas treading water with a new manager with a new style is a good result, like Klopp starting out at Liverpool.
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I think I'm on board with this too. I don't think Nuno gave a lot of evidence this season he'd have turned us into a free flowing attacking side, or turned around the rot. Of course Jimenez and Neto being absent were huge factors, but even when one or the other were in the team we were a bit... flat.
 
PuntsWolf said:
It’s not neccesssirirly the what, it’s the why and the how. We’ve underperformed both in terms of results, performances and aesthetics. A lot of that can be attributed to Nuno, some things out of his control.

The alternative is give him a wad of cash this summer, then either tread water, progress with attacking football or decline further. Two of those outcomes are a wasted season which result in him being sacked with a cloud over his head.

Whereas treading water with a new manager with a new style is a good result, like Klopp starting out at Liverpool.
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As we've discussed before I think there is a chance that things had just run it's course and 10 games into next season we'd be where we are now, but with less replacement options and no pre season for the new guy, so I do get the logic from that perspective.

That said, there is at least an equal chance that he'd have come back re-energised with a plan to evolve the team. That coupled with us finding a genuine improvement in what we seem to have defined as a narrow pool doesn't make the potential reward worth the risk imo. Based on what information is in the public domain
 
Tony Towner said:
As we've discussed before I think there is a chance that things had just run it's course and 10 games into next season we'd be where we are now, but with less replacement options and no pre season for the new guy, so I do get the logic from that perspective.

That said, there is at least an equal chance that he'd have come back re-energised with a plan to evolve the team. That coupled with us finding a genuine improvement in what we seem to have defined as a narrow pool doesn't make the potential reward worth the risk imo. Based on what information is in the public domain
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I agree with that. The “equal or greater chance” bit is pure guesswork and which side you fall of equal will be purely on your current opinion. Me personally I feel he’d peaked but was willing to give time to know for sure. Fosun obviously don’t want to or already know?

Im not going to get caught up on panicking about a replacement. I know nothing about any of these guys. The media 24hrs ago didn’t know he was being sacked, so they have no idea who our replacements are either.
 
PuntsWolf said:
I agree with that. The “equal or greater chance” bit is pure guesswork and which side you fall of equal will be purely on your current opinion. Me personally I feel he’d peaked but was willing to give time to know for sure. Fosun obviously don’t want to or already know?

Im not going to get caught up on panicking about a replacement. I know nothing about any of these guys. The media 24hrs ago didn’t know he was being sacked, so they have no idea who our replacements are either.
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I think this hits the nail on the head.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
It'd save me about £600...
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Playing devils advocate purely on footballing merits/CV Rafa is infinitely more qualified than Nuno and his football is no worse.

Your best mate Brucie is only 3 points behind us with a worse squad, universally hated ownership, equally bad if not worse injury list, zero fan backing.
 
When Leicester appointed Rodgers I don't think anyone thought he was a particularly great manager that could play attacking football, defend well and also get consistent results. Yet he's had them inside the top 4 for all but a few weeks for the last two seasons. Their recruitment is key, but you also have to set the team up to play well and get results.

I don't think that finding a decent young manager who can try to play attractive football and press a bit higher is some kind of mythical one in a million unicorn. There are plenty of decent European managers that have managed in the CL and EL the last few seasons.

The bigger deal is recruitment for me. That's what makes a squad. The manager can only do the best with what he's got. Which is why I like Fonseca for the role as he has a history of doing that.
 
Definitely rules out Amorim as he doesn't have his coaching badges yet.

Edit: meant to quote AndyWolves post
 
Well, when Nuno wasn't here we signed Ola John, Jon Dadi Bödvarsson, Prince Oniangué and Paul Gladon.

When he was here, we didn't sign shite like that.

So you tell me.
 
The Bear said:
When Leicester appointed Rodgers I don't think anyone thought he was a particularly great manager that could play attacking football, defend well and also get consistent results. Yet he's had them inside the top 4 for all but a few weeks for the last two seasons.
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Loads of people thought that.
 
Yeah we wasted more money on Cutrone, Jordao, Miranda, Dadashov, Campana, Vallejo and the juries still out on the majority of this seasons cohort.
 
PuntsWolf said:
Playing devils advocate purely on footballing merits/CV Rafa is infinitely more qualified than Nuno and his football is no worse.

Your best mate Brucie is only 3 points behind us with a worse squad, universally hated ownership, equally bad if not worse injury list, zero fan backing.
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Benitez's football is infinitely worse. Eye bleedingly dull.
 
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