Man arrested for Racism

[The Weasel]

I wonder how far away from Gibraltar does he live?

Well yes, in fact I almost mentioned the Falklands but thought better of it despite its obvious colonisation

 

[sycophantia]

You and everybody like you who trot out this tired BLM trope are nothing but reductionist.

You refer to BLM as if its a huge monolithic organisation all pulling in one direction with one defined focus.

They deliver a message that crosses alot of ordinary dividers like social class, wealth, educational attainment etc

You try to point to the elimination of racial inequality as number 3 as if its some sort of gotcha but you couldn't be more wrong.

I won't bore you with a full blown political science paper but in bullet points

The root cause of slavery was coloialism.​

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Colonialism was driven by capitalism​

The tenet of capitalism is the ownership of resources and free markets.​

The owners of resources are predominately white.​

The colonialisation remains to this day as does the capitalistic thirst for resources (oil etc).​

So what they are saying in their stated aims is that its their belief they can't eliminate racism and inequality without reform to capitalism to temper its excesses or they can't do it at all in a capitalist society.

Bringing it back to the wide cross section of society you will have factions who are focused on taking a knee and peaceful protest, social disobedience and then those on the fringes who want chaos and violence. This is equally true of a political party, Take Back The Night or Extinction Rebellion.

Pointing out the other clubs or Zaha merely indicates that they want more so inadvertently you're saying don't do the knee its meaningless and then contradict yourself/become a hypocrite the moment you condemn anybody taking more explicit action.

Not disagreeing with your points in general but surely the first point isn't always true? Slavery can and has existed outside of colonialism forever hasn't it?

 

[Derby Wolf]

Not disagreeing with your points in general but surely the first point isn't always true? Slavery can and has existed outside of colonialism forever hasn't it?

Yes, true enough. Admittedly I threw that post together on the fly, I should have maybe framed it as 'the reason BLM are opposed to colonialism is...' rather than the catch all tone of what I did post.

 

[Alan]

Not disagreeing with your points in general but surely the first point isn't always true? Slavery can and has existed outside of colonialism forever hasn't it?

Suppose it depends on your definition of colonialism tbf.

 

[sycophantia]

Every right thinking person is opposed to colonialism......aren't they?

 

[sycophantia]

Suppose it depends on your definition of colonoliasm tbf.

Not really

 

[Alan]

Not really

Salient point!

 

[SSB]

A Wolves fan arrested on suspicion of making a racist gesture towards former Manchester United and England defender Rio Ferdinand at Molineux has been released on bail.

West Midlands Police confirmed the 31-year-old male suspect had been bailed pending further investigation.

 

[Haggstone]

A Wolves fan arrested on suspicion of making a racist gesture towards former Manchester United and England defender Rio Ferdinand at Molineux has been released on bail.

West Midlands Police confirmed the 31-year-old male suspect had been bailed pending further investigation.

I imagine he can go back to performing brain surgery, or whatever else it is he does with his time when he’s not being a racist twat. Bound to be a high flyer though.

 

[Alan]

I imagine he can go back to performing brain surgery, or whatever else it is he does with his time when he’s not being a racist twat. Bound to be a high flyer though.

More likely than you might think, unfortunately.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

I disagree and so do a lot of other people, footballers, and pundits included. BLM introduced taking the Knee to support its movement people now are saying but its not in support of them when it plainly is.

Also surely if combatting Racism is number 3 on their mission Statement / Obective then that is a wider aim of BLM. stopping capitalism and ending colonial countries, which by the way there are actually none now are the main objective.

I also see today the head of BLM UK is fighting for her life in hospital after being shot.
I hope she makes a full recovery, whilst i dislike her politics intensly no one deserves to be shot.

BLM did not introduce taking the knee. It was a symbolic gesture by a black man who thought his life and the lives of people like him didn’t matter as much as your life.

Cpaitalism and colonialism are, and historically have been, drivers of inequality. There is plenty of evidence to support this.

Deal with 1 and 2 and 3 is more likely to be the outcome - rather than them being ranked, they are presented in a logical order.

The person you are referring to is not the head of BLM UK.

Apart from these minor inaccuracies I think you’ve nailed it.

 

[BillyDee]

#blacklivesmatter and the intent and meaning behind that hashtag (that, you know, the lives of black people actually matter..?) is one thing. If some political organisation wants to call themselves Black Lives Matter, they do not then take ownership of all uses of the term and hashtag, and hijack an organic movement.
If I started a political party called, idk, the Feminism Party, but then acted like a misogynistic prick, that wouldn't mean all people promoting feminist issues are misogynistic pricks, I'd just be a dick.

 

[Derby Wolf]

 

[leedswolf]

I disagree and so do a lot of other people, footballers, and pundits included. BLM introduced taking the Knee to support its movement people now are saying but its not in support of them when it plainly is.

Also surely if combatting Racism is number 3 on their mission Statement / Obective then that is a wider aim of BLM. stopping capitalism and ending colonial countries, which by the way there are actually none now are the main objective.

I also see today the head of BLM UK is fighting for her life in hospital after being shot.
I hope she makes a full recovery, whilst i dislike her politics intensly no one deserves to be shot.

Except BLM didn't introduce taking the knee, they adopted it...

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Colin Kapaernick introduced taking the knee, at what turned out to be great personal cost. He has fuck all to do with BLM.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

When taking the knee before kick off, I’m not sure that Adama Traore is thinking about how to bring down capitalism. However, I can bet that when he hears the booing he thinks ‘what a bunch of racist pricks’.

 

[jdrodrigues]

I just can't understand the thought process. So you wait over a year, get lucky enough to be able to afford one of 4500 something tickets, you're easily identified because there's no crowd and it's in that particular moment in time that you choose to publicly be a twat, racism-spewing mess.

What could go wrong?

 

[Paul]

I just can't understand the thought process. So you wait over a year, get lucky enough to be able to afford one of 4500 something tickets, you're easily identified because there's no crowd and it's in that particular moment in time that you choose to publicly be a twat, racism-spewing mess.

What could go wrong?

Especially when there is no crowd to merge back into, almost genius level thought process there

 

[Lupo]

By the nature of his crime it would appear intelligence and rationale aren't high on his list of attributes

 

[lemonjelly]

I just can't understand the thought process. So you wait over a year, get lucky enough to be able to afford one of 4500 something tickets, you're easily identified because there's no crowd and it's in that particular moment in time that you choose to publicly be a twat, racism-spewing mess.

What could go wrong?

equally, the amount of people back in grounds, able to watch the football, but ON THEIR FUCKING PHONES!