Live Match Discussion 2017/18

[jlo]

Nicked off Reddit :-

No team that was promoted to any of the top 5 divisions in England in 2016/17 has been relegated in 2017/18

Premier League

Promoted 2016/17: Newcastle United, Brighton and Hove Albion, Huddersfield Town

Relegated 2017/18: Stoke City, West Bromwich Albion, Swansea City/Southampton



Championship

Promoted 2016/17: Sheffield United, Millwall, Bolton Wanderers

Relegated 2017/18: Sunderland, Burton Albion, Barnsley



League One

Promoted 2016/17: Portsmouth, Plymouth Argyle, Doncaster Rovers

Relegated 2017/18: Bury, MK Dons, Northampton Town, Oldham Athletic



League Two

Promoted 2016/17: Lincoln City, Forest Green Rovers

Relegated 2017/18: Chesterfield, Barnet



Vanarama National League

Promoted 2016/17: AFC Fylde, Ebbsfleet United, Maidenhead United, Halifax Town

Relegated 2017/18: Guiseley, Chester FC, Torquay United, Woking

Blackpool is missing off here, but still valid. Interesting stat - Bolton came closest to messing that up, and I'd totally forgotten Millwall were only just promoted too.

 

[Tony Towner]

If Rotherham win the play offs then all 3 sides who were relegated from the Championship will go straight back up.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Blackpool is missing off here, but still valid. Interesting stat - Bolton came closest to messing that up, and I'd totally forgotten Millwall were only just promoted too.

I think what is even more interesting is how well those newly promoted teams have performed with Sheffield Utd, Millwall , Portsmouth Plymouth all finishing top half or just outside the play offs, Lincoln , Ebbsfleet and Flyde all making the play offs.

 

[Lord Knows]

I stand by what I said a few weeks ago, even if we bought no-one (other than signing up all the loanees, so we have the exact same squad as we have now), I'd back us to beat pretty much anyone in the bottom half, home or away. Obviously you aren't going to win all of those games (though it'd be nice) but I would consider us to be favourites in the vast majority of them.

We shouldn't be close to the bottom three, there are some extremely poor teams knocking around. Remember this is a season where Palace - who don't exactly have a superb squad, it's competent at best - had 0 points and 0 goals after 7 games and they've stayed up easily.

Wolves vs Arsenal at our place, who starts as favourite?

 

[lemonjelly]

That's where my head is too. We don't have much premier league experience so survival has to be the target.

This reminds me of all those clamouring for "championship experience" at the start of this season...

 

[YoungWolf]

This reminds me of all those clamouring for "championship experience" at the start of this season...

Indeed. We just need good footballers, and good coaching. We have that and that’s only going to improve.

Crazy that City can and probably will get to 100 points. Someone needs to tell Pep to cut out this tippy tappy nonsense, guy is a complete fraud without Messi

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Look, the likes of Jota and Neves might have played against Villa, Derby, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Forest and Sheff Wed this season, but it's a whole different ball game when you're facing Burnley, Watford, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace and Huddersfield.

 

[YoungWolf]

:icon_lol:

I’m genuinely excited about how our players will take to the Premier League. Less games, even a winter break next season I think ? They will be fresher. I think it will suit some players more so than the championship did. Let’s be honest, Costa, Cav, Jota, Neves should never have really been playing at that level anyway!

 

[Lord Knows]

:icon_lol:

I’m genuinely excited about how our players will take to the Premier League. Less games, even a winter break next season I think ? They will be fresher. I think it will suit some players more so than the championship did. Let’s be honest, Costa, Cav, Jota, Neves should never have really been playing at that level anyway!

Nuno was clever enough to make sure the majority of Championship games were played on his terms with his system of play controlling proceedings. How that works out in the Premier league is for us to find out.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

Do they have anyone who can 'do it' on a cold night in Stoke though

Straight over my head.

 

[AndyWolves]

Shrewsbury playing the first leg of their playoff tonight.

Despite them being bellends at the start of the season I'd like to see them get promoted

 

[AndyWolves]

This reminds me of all those clamouring for "championship experience" at the start of this season...

To put it another way, plenty of players haven't been able to make the step up to premier league football.

I'd be happy with 17th but hopeful for a lot more, equally I won't be shouting for Nunos head if things get a bit rocky

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Whoever thought they'd live to see a Lingard/Sanchez pairing up front?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Ruddy, Douglas, N'Diaye (if we kept him), Bennett, Cavaleiro, Afobe (if we kept him), Miranda and Saiss have all played top flight football. Neves, Jota and Boly have all played Champions League football.

This isn't a callow squad, it's not the same kind of issue that it was in 2009.

 

[AndyWolves]

I'd rather be pessimistic and pleasantly surprised than optimistic and disappointed.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't do groundless optimism

We're actually quite a good team. I know it's odd, but you should embrace it.

 

[AndyWolves]

Whoever thought they'd live to see a Lingard/Sanchez pairing up front?

I not watching the game but I'd imagine that's pretty effective?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I've got Charlton vs Shrewsbury on as there's absolutely nothing riding on the United game.

Zyro on the bench. Both teams having a decent go but still goalless.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

I not watching the game but I'd imagine that's pretty effective?

On what basis? Neither of them are strikers.

 

[AndyWolves]

I don't do groundless optimism

We're actually quite a good team. I know it's odd, but you should embrace it.

Oh I do, I put £50 on wolves to win the league this season before we kicked off. I never bet on Wolves.

I'm just not sure we'll be around 10th, players like traore, cairney, Maddison etc looked good against us and did damage. Prem players will be better