Leicester 0-0 Wolves We've been roobbed Verdict thread:

[Penk Wolf]

So I was right then? Ball hits players arm...opposition get a touch...ball then put away means the hand ball wasn't an assist. Ace rule

Yep, awful rule.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Did it lead to a goal?

And I mentioned the handball debate should be universal not just one instance.

 

[Banjo]

So I was right then? Ball hits players arm...opposition get a touch...ball then put away means the hand ball wasn't an assist. Ace rule

But only if the handball was accidental.

 

[Banjo]

(I agree that the rule is ridiculous FTAOD)

 

[Penk Wolf]

So I was right then? Ball hits players arm...opposition get a touch...ball then put away means the hand ball wasn't an assist. Ace rule

Just seen the Billy Sharp goal, which is exactly that. Hits Sheffield United player on the arm, bounces off the Bournemouth players head and then Sharp scores. Goal given.

 

[Hereford Wolf]

 

[Kenny]

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That rules doesn't count on goals/assists

 

[Tony Towner]

The ball hit his head, dropped to the top of his shoulder... never hit his actual arm, he was still in the air when it happened. Hardly consider that an assist. Its just like the jesus goal that was disallowed because sterlings shoulder was judged to be a few millimeters in offside... absolutely ridiculous, all rules should be in the spirit of the game. I have yet to see a corner goal being disallowed because the ball was a few millimeters off the line before the corner, as it often is

The ball doesn't need to touch the quadrant for a corner, part of it's circumference needs to overhang it

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Just seen the Billy Sharp goal, which is exactly that. Hits Sheffield United player on the arm, bounces off the Bournemouth players head and then Sharp scores. Goal given.

Going back a few posts to deciding how/when you deem the handball to have played a part in the goal.

In a situation like described above, if the defender had managed to get out of the way Sharp couldn't have scored direct from his teammates handball. If he'd instead squared it to a team mate to finish instead would that still count or would it need to go further afield before someone can score?

If the latter then defending teams might be better off just stopping play when they see the ball strike an attackers hand. You get punished for getting involved so let them have the free hit and have VAR overturn it.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

https://twitter.com/BKristianmarcus/status/1160882708622577664?s=19

 

[Penk Wolf]

It wouldn’t be an assist, so it shouldn’t be overturned if he then lays it off.

https://twitter.com/bkristianmarcus/status/1160882708622577664?s=21

 

[Tony Towner]

Still looks like chest to me

 

[ndorsetwolf]

Other thing that is getting on my tits is the number of people suggesting that Boly goal against City is reason for this rule change. Why the fuck would would FIFA (who made the rule change) give a tinkers cuss about one goal in the Premier League.

This is just another example of a bunch of corrupt twats pissing about with rules and getting it totally wrong (again!).

 

[Kenny]

Other thing that is getting on my tits is the number of people suggesting that Boly goal against City is reason for this rule change. Why the fuck would would FIFA (who made the rule change) give a tinkers cuss about one goal in the Premier League.

This is just another example of a bunch of corrupt twats pissing about with rules and getting it totally wrong (again!).

Its being used as example by the refs body. That goal got our Refs in trouble last season as the accepted rule on handball goals was if it is an accident it counts...it then came out that Prem refs had been told to ignore that and if they any goal scored via the hand to rule it out (if VAR had been around last season it would have been disallowed but not for hand ball but for offside anyway). Seems though on the back of the stuff from last season and possibly the season before (Arsenal scored a goal via the hand maybe?) it made them make this change and then get carried away and cause all this bollocks.

 

[Tony Towner]

Plus it was Elleray an English ref, who proposed and drove through the rule

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yep, Koscielny scored vs Burnley. Think a defender thundered it at him from a yard away off the line, he put his hands up instinctively to protect his boat and in it went.

 

[Kenny]

Yep, Koscielny scored vs Burnley. Think a defender thundered it at him from a yard away off the line, he put his hands up instinctively to protect his boat and in it went.

Thats the one. It was after that the Prem refs were told to ignore the actual ruling but no one knew about it until the Boly goal and Dermot Gallagher spilled the beans on Sky Sports..

 

[AndyWolves]

Still looks like chest to me

There's a reverse angle somewhere which shows the ball hitting the arm

 

[Penk Wolf]

Looking back yesterday, one thing that will kill it for the fans is where Jimenez was clearly offside, but they allowed him to continue to let VAR do it's business.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Jota wasn't it? Where he put it miles wide one on one.

Tbh I kind of *knew* he was offside, the starting positions just looked all wrong.