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Keir Starmer at it again..

Well, quite.
So Vis, you’re applying guilt-by-association to Corbyn, but not to Starmer, despite Starmer making an active political choice with full knowledge of Mandelson’s history.

That’s a double standard. That’s hypocrisy.

Off the back of this, would still love to know why Starmer shouldn't resign?
Im not applying any guilt to Corbyn. He is.

If hes saying that Starmer is flawed because of association with Mandelson then surely the same applies to JC because of his relationship with Chomsky?

You cant have it both ways. Either they're both guilty or neither of them are.
 
The difference is obvious: Starmer made an active political choice to bring Mandelson back, knowing his record.

Corbyn didn’t appoint Chomsky to anything, give him power, or rehabilitate him into government.

That’s not the same standard being applied twice. It’s two completely different situations being flattened to look equivalent by you.

If agency and responsibility matter, then Starmer is the only one making a case for scrutiny here.
You can’t pretend those distinctions don’t exist.
 
Why are you equating "associate with people who are friends with Epstein", with "employ a man with a massive history of corruption and scandal who was so close with with Epstein that he lived in his apartment while he was in prison for sex trafficking and noncing". You frequently call out false equivalences but the mental gymnastics needed to compare Corbyn and Starmer on this is enough to put your back out
 
Starmer didn't just 'associate' with mandleson, he put him into the most important diplomatic position there is for this country
When political appointees for diplomatic roles wasn't even a considered thing
 
The difference is obvious: Starmer made an active political choice to bring Mandelson back, knowing his record.

Corbyn didn’t appoint Chomsky to anything, give him power, or rehabilitate him into government.

That’s not the same standard being applied twice. It’s two completely different situations being flattened to look equivalent by you.

If agency and responsibility matter, then Starmer is the only one making a case for scrutiny here.
You can’t pretend those distinctions don’t exist.


So its OK to associate with people who were friends with Epstein as long as you dont give them a job?

Seems an odd distinction..

FFS no one knew Chomsky was an acquaintance of Epstein. Starmer knew and then actually decided to not care and give him a job
 
From Dad behaving badly:

‘If just seven more voters had backed Labour in the Runcorn and Helsby by-election in May 2025, a Reform MP wouldn’t have won there.’

More and more people are trying to use this to attack Zack Polanski for having the utter nerve to stand a Green candidate in Gorton and Denton against Reform that will take away Labour votes. Apparently the Green Party can’t win there, and anything saying otherwise is faker than that Addidoose tracksuit you bought from Big Barry’s boot in your local pub’s car park last week.

Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell is even writing directly to the man himself and getting it into The Mirror. So, for her benefit and anyone else’s I’ve had a go at rewriting the above.

‘If the Labour government hadn’t fallen over themselves since getting elected to lurch further and further to the right and piss off the vast proportion of their support base who are left and centre-left, just seven more voters would have probably backed Labour in the Runcorn and Helsby by-election in May 2025, and a Reform MP wouldn’t have won there.’

And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling voters!
 
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