Keir Starmer at it again..

[Dire Wolf]

I'm not sure why it seems so incredible to some people that you can detest the Tories and want them out yet also be critical of the opposition? Especially since as an opposition they seem very reluctant to actually stand for any meaningful policies. The 2 things aren't mutually exclusive. I hate the Tories and want them out and I will vote to help make that happen. I also think Starmer is a spineless charlatan and once in power will do very little to make life significantly better for the majority of people. They have nailed their colours to the mast of being better at being traditional Tory than the current Tories. That's not a Labour Party I support for anything other than the means to the end of getting rid of the current government of crooks and liars.

 

[Templeton Peck]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1673400953951625218

Good thing the Pope isn't in the Labour Party.

 

[BillyDee]

Not sure holding up the Pope as a paragon of virtue is the win you think it is...

 

[prawnking]

I'm not sure why it seems so incredible to some people that you can detest the Tories and want them out yet also be critical of the opposition? Especially since as an opposition they seem very reluctant to actually stand for any meaningful policies. The 2 things aren't mutually exclusive. I hate the Tories and want them out and I will vote to help make that happen. I also think Starmer is a spineless charlatan and once in power will do very little to make life significantly better for the majority of people. They have nailed their colours to the mast of being better at being traditional Tory than the current Tories. That's not a Labour Party I support for anything other than the means to the end of getting rid of the current government of crooks and liars.

I'd prefer more boldness from Labour at this stage, but at least it's a stage where they're electable, avoiding giving the right wing media easy wins and not full of cranks and anti-semitic conspiracy tossers, so there's that.

 

[Tredman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1673400953951625218

Good thing the Pope isn't in the Labour Party.

Holding the Catholic church up as paragon of virtue, particular when looking at a history of anti-semitism, is an interesting take.

Edit, what billy said clearly.

Love the Pride flag in the avatar too when praising the Catholic church

 

[prawnking]

You only need to look at Corbyn, Galloway and others to see that the far left is happy to sleep with the strangest bedfellows

 

[prawnking]

history of anti-semitism

You're talking to people who veer between silence and denial on the topic, so I doubt there'll be many fucks given.

Happy to preach and finger-wag when it comes to any other 'ism', of course

 

[Templeton Peck]

Not sure holding up the Pope as a paragon of virtue is the win you think it is...

So Starmer should avoid him at all costs then?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Not sure he is much of a vote winner

 

[BillyDee]

So Starmer should avoid him at all costs then?

He can do as he likes. Personally I'd steer well clear.

 

[Dire Wolf]

He can do as he likes. Personally I'd steer well clear.

Yeah, he's much better off rubbing shoulders with Rupert Murdoch.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That might (through getting some column inches in the Murdoch press) have some miniscule marginal benefit, although it really is a massive long shot and almost certainly for the birds. I don’t particularly like it either, but I can see a little bit of logic behind the idea.

Hanging out or otherwise with the pope is just irrelevant for definite though.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Yeah, he's much better off rubbing shoulders with Rupert Murdoch.

It's sensible grown up forensic 5D chess. You just don't get it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Is this still about some no-mark Sam Tarry II that lives hundreds of miles from you, really?

I get that Labour shouldn't be immune from criticism just because the Tories are appalling, but it's such a complete non-issue.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Is this still about some no-mark Sam Tarry II that lives hundreds of miles from you, really?

I get that Labour shouldn't be immune from criticism just because the Tories are appalling, but it's such a complete non-issue.

We've moved on to Murdoch now.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Oh, ok.

Well yes, I'd rather no-one palled around with him. Fortunately it won't be an issue soon as he's 138 years old.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Oh, ok.

Well yes, I'd rather no-one palled around with him. Fortunately it won't be an issue soon as he's 138 years old.

I'm not sure the media landscape will change significantly once he's gone.

 

[prawnking]

Murdoch is a cunt, but the media landscape in general can be pretty dishonest.

Like many of the articles yesterday making out Pope Francis was basically endorsing Loach (your mates Jewish Voice for Labour even posted a photoshopped pic of them together to spin the tenuous link further ) when they didn't meet and he was basically just sat in a big room with 200 others while the Pope made some general, artist-friendly statements, which Left Unity (and then you) were happy to spin into a Labour Party attack

 

[Templeton Peck]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1674021034599538689

Another one bites the dust.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Poor Owen. Someone took his favourite teddy bear away and there he is still screaming from the sidelines.