Keir Starmer at it again..

[Sniffer]

It will be an exercise of look at you lot voting to keep the lying, rule breaking oaf of a PM in No.10 when last week you were all saying that he should go immediately. Throw in the fact that they are appointing a new PM, which only a couple of hundred thousand will get to elect rather than the electorate as a whole then the political point will be made.

 

[Templeton Peck]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547639798348730368

And the absolute best we can hope for is that this useless lying prick gets in. We are utterly screwed. Deservedly so, but still.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Still look on the bright side, he isn’t Jeremy Corbyn.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Still look on the bright side, he isn’t Jeremy Corbyn.

How is that a bright side? He's got darker hair? Smoother face? Wears nicer suits?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Incredible

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548787881631686658

 

[Tony Towner]

I see the Forde report gives everyone what they were looking for. Waste of time

Antisemitism issue used as ‘factional weapon’ in Labour, report finds

Report commissioned by Keir Starmer highlights ‘toxicity on both sides’ under Jeremy Corbyn

www.theguardian.com

 

[Templeton Peck]

Incredible

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548787881631686658

These things are OK if you don't like the target. Keep up.

 

[Templeton Peck]

I see the Forde report gives everyone what they were looking for. Waste of time

Antisemitism issue used as ‘factional weapon’ in Labour, report finds

Report commissioned by Keir Starmer highlights ‘toxicity on both sides’ under Jeremy Corbyn

www.theguardian.com

'Antisemitism used as a factional weapon.' Well stroke my thighs and call me Darren!

 

[Tony Towner]

Yep, knew you'd come up with that. Equally the 2 election campaigns claim that the left like to quote was equally debunked. Like I say, pointless because you can get out of it what you choose

 

[Templeton Peck]

...

 

[Tredman]

Sounds very similar to Johnson wanging on about deep state yesterday.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Sounds very similar to Johnson wanging on about deep state yesterday.

Had a report about deep state come out with evidence to corroborate his wanging?

 

[Templeton Peck]

Sounds very similar to Johnson wanging on about deep state yesterday.

What an odd take.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Equally the 2 election campaigns claim that the left like to quote was equally debunked.

I'm clearly struggling to understand people tonight, but sorry, what does this mean?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Yep, knew you'd come up with that.

Come up with what?

Is it not a fact then? Are you dismissing the findings of the report?

 

[The Saturday Boy]

I am, sort of, with TT on this. The Forde report allows everyone to exonerate themselves from blame while blaming the "other side".

What I take from it is that the Labour Party leading up to and post the 2017 election set the cause of anti-semitism back. Whether that was not responding or responding too slowly to anti-semitism or using anti-semitism as a cover for factional politics it was all harmful.

There is nothing in the report that would convince me to rejoin the Labour Party and nothing that Starmer offers that makes me think anything has fundamentally changed since he took over. The same issues still exist, they are just under the surface.

I want Corbyn era policies, without Corbyn and his acolytes. I don't think that can ever happen.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Yep, knew you'd come up with that. Equally the 2 election campaigns claim that the left like to quote was equally debunked. Like I say, pointless because you can get out of it what you choose

Regardless the report says antisemitism was used as a factional weapon against Corbyn. That's what I thought at the time as did many others. Corbyn was suspended for saying as much. It was true though.

 

[White Wolf]

Factional weapon or not, the report doesn't deny the institutional anti-Semitism in Labour like some of Corbyn's supporters are trying to paint this as.

Was the recent Chris Pincher scandal not similarly a 'factional weapon'? I highly doubt most Tory MPs genuinely cared that much about the issue, yet plenty of people would say that it was a horrid thing and Johnson deserved to go regardless. Same with Corbyn and anti-Semitism if you ask me.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Factional weapon or not, the report doesn't deny the institutional anti-Semitism in Labour like some of Corbyn's supporters are trying to paint this as.

Was the recent Chris Pincher scandal not similarly a 'factional weapon'? I highly doubt most Tory MPs genuinely cared that much about the issue, yet plenty of people would say that it was a horrid thing and Johnson deserved to go regardless. Same with Corbyn and anti-Semitism if you ask me.

If you think Labour was riddled with antisemitism under Corbyn I suggest you read the EHRC report.

 

[White Wolf]

I have read the report, and have also experienced it myself. That's why I think it has a problem.