Keir Starmer at it again..

[ROVERT47]

Ha - what’s he now saying?

Fuck him!

 

[Tony Towner]

Ha - what’s he now saying?

Basically the old better to be pissing in the tent than pissing out analogy

 

[Del Woppio]

It was always such an easy question to answer, the fucking bellend. Just along the lines of "I entered politics late in life to serve my country, to influence policy and help make public services and people's lives better. I didn't stand because of Jeremy Corbyn, and I didn't serve because of him. With people like me, Angela, etc alongside him, the Labour party would have been a much better government than anything served up by Theresa May or Boris Johnson".

 

[Del Woppio]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805640354101653589

 

[Del Woppio]

They've also returned the £100k that he used to pay for his place on the ticket donated to the party

 

[Tredman]

Keir: more than just a lucky general | Tom Hamilton | The Critic Magazine

Neither Left nor Right can accept that Starmer’s impressive focus and strategic sense is responsible for transforming Labour’s prospects…

thecritic.co.uk

 

[pr0sl0]

Keir: more than just a lucky general | Tom Hamilton | The Critic Magazine

Neither Left nor Right can accept that Starmer’s impressive focus and strategic sense is responsible for transforming Labour’s prospects…

thecritic.co.uk

Pretty fair assessment, although I think he's too generous to say Starmer's had a "relentless focus on the voters he actually needs to win, rather than the ones who make the most noise" - especially because he also (correctly, imo) notes earlier that Starmer's success largely comes down to positioning himself as bland and unobjectionable to as many people as possible, rather than actively trying to be compelling or exciting to any group or groups in particular. (Which is why we already have talk of how broad but shallow this victory is going to be, similar to the 2019 result, but that's a 2025-2029 problem.)

That said, this bit...

Labour lost badly in 2019 to a Conservative Party whose own leader’s unpopularity and manifest unfitness for office was overshadowed by that of its own. If the core of the Starmer-minimisers’ case in 2024 is that his success doesn’t really count, because Labour cannot possibly lose to an unpopular government which has failed miserably to deliver on almost any of the main policies it promised at the previous election, which has fallen below 20 per cent in some recent opinion polls, whose parliamentary party is riven by infighting and whose newly-installed leader has no public mandate: well, you managed it last time. Don’t do yourselves down.

Whew, bodied.

 

[Tony Towner]

Except Johnson was popular, it was his constructed man of the people personality and Brexit bullshit which won them the election

 

[Tredman]

Except Johnson was popular, it was his constructed man of the people personality and Brexit bullshit which won them the election

He wasn't though

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I think Johnson was already very much Marmite by 2019. They hid him away for a lot of the campaign, no BBC interview, didn't turn up to the C4 debate, shuffling away into a fridge, etc etc.

His shtick was getting old by 2016 (of course some of us have always hated the awful cunt).

 

[pr0sl0]

Johnson wasn't popular! His net favourability was effectively zero, he was hated and loved in equal measure, it's just that Corbyn was very unpopular by 2019. By historical standards they were both remarkably unpopular relative to other major party leaders going into a general election. You have to go back decades to find anything close for either side, but in 2019 both Tories and Labour managed it.

And the situation now is pretty much reversed. Starmer's net popularity has risen over the campaign but is still pretty much neutral overall, whereas Sunak is now polling at a Corbyn 2019 level.

 

[Wellen Wolf]

He wasn't though

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I observe that the Trussiot apparently wasn't there long enough to get rated.

 

[Tredman]

I observe that the Trussiot apparently wasn't there long enough to get rated.

It’s approval ratings in period before elections. She didn’t last that long..

 

[Wellen Wolf]

It’s approval ratings in period before elections. She didn’t last that long..

thx. missed that

 

[Templeton Peck]

Except Johnson was popular, it was his constructed man of the people personality and Brexit bullshit which won them the election

Get Brexit Done really struck a chord. Most people were just fed up with it by then.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It was the "get it done" or "fuck it off entirely" election. Or at least it should have been. As the opposition parties dithered about the stance on the point (especially Labour as Corbyn was get it done (preferably in an equitable way for people) and a lot of the shadow cabinet were remainers) Boris had clear blue water on the issue and that got him a huge majority.

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809275698290561478

 

[Kenny]

Standard Dad vibe here "It's still daylight, don't need the big light on"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809314668621754509

 

[Tredman]

Standard Dad vibe here "It's still daylight, don't need the big light on"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809314668621754509

Subtle dig at the post 6pm working thing I think.

 

[Kenny]

Good 1st day. 10/10

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809327545940144378