Keir Starmer at it again..

[Templeton Peck]

The headlines exagerate what he's actually said, but writing a column in the Telegraph praising Thatcher is a line for me he shouldn't be crossing

It's a thoroughly depressing read. He's basically promising more austerity and failing public services because of a self imposed and idiotic fiscal rules.

 

[Del Woppio]

I'm (probably naively) clinging to the hope that once he's in and has a large majority, that he'll be less Tory Lite when it comes to public spending and brexit, and that it's just during the campaign that he's basically trying not to look too radical.

 

[Templeton Peck]

I'm (probably naively) clinging to the hope that once he's in and has a large majority, that he'll be less Tory Lite when it comes to public spending and brexit, and that it's just during the campaign that he's basically trying not to look too radical.

Like Cameron in reverse? Hugging hoodies then wanking over public spending cuts? The hope that Starmer will transform into Atlee is pretty much all we have now. I'm no fan of Blair at all but in 97 he was promising things. Real policies to change lives. Starmer offers more shit sandwiches.

 

[Tony Towner]

I'm (probably naively) clinging to the hope that once he's in and has a large majority, that he'll be less Tory Lite when it comes to public spending and brexit, and that it's just during the campaign that he's basically trying not to look too radical.

There's always a balance any Labour leader has to find to win over a certain section of the electorate, he has the added complication of the spectre of Corbyn he also needs to distance himself from. That said any, be it mild, praise of Thatcher just antagonises your base. He won't lose many, or me, because of it, but is just unnecessary and I doubt impacts whether anyone it's aimed at will vote for him because of it.

In addition you'd have to be at least 54 to have voted for her in a GE so it's a diminishing number of the electorate he's talking to. He'd be much better off trying to engage the youth vote.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Like Cameron in reverse? Hugging hoodies then wanking over public spending cuts? The hope that Starmer will transform into Atlee is pretty much all we have now. I'm no fan of Blair at all but in 97 he was promising things. Real policies to change lives. Starmer offers more shit sandwiches.

Perhaps you would prefer five more Sunak years?

 

[Tredman]

Just think of the opportunity for him to say ‘I told you so’

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Perhaps you would prefer five more Sunak years?

You have a wonderful capacity to reduce any discussion to binary options whilst at the same time adding nothing.

Labour could win the next election by being...Labour with an ounce of vision, hope or aspiration.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Probably because the next election is a binary decision. Starmer or Sunak. It’s that simple.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Probably because the next election is a binary decision. Starmer or Sunak. It’s that simple.

It isn't. But carry on.

 

[Tredman]

But it is. As you were.

 

[Del Woppio]

Labour could definitely still win if their policies were more left leaning. They're being unnecessarily cautious, (well, scared). There's tonnes of polling that says being more Labour on services and brexit wouldn't cause them to leak votes

 

[Tredman]

Think he’s aiming for a huge majority, that only happens if you convince Tories he is safe.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

But it is. As you were.

It isn't even guaranteed that it will be Sunak leading the Tories into the next election.

 

[Derby Wolf]

To use a footballing analogy, it feels the Labour strategy is a team going away and putting 10 behind the ball and failing to recognise they have things that can hurt the opponent.

At the moment it doesn't feel like they're even taking the numerous opportunities to counter attack.

They can't necessarily go gung-ho with the rabid right wing press waiting to pounce or the ghost of Corybn lingering but despite that there's much more they can be doing to offer hope to millions of beleaguered voters.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Perhaps you would prefer five more Sunak years?

It's up to Starmer to convince me to vote Labour. He hasn't. Far from it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Tortured football analogy #716:

It's like when Wolves had Walter Zenga in charge and we appointed Paul Lambert. We couldn't continue with Zenga as he was obviously a fucking clown. I had no great enthusiasm for Lambert based on his work at Villa and Blackburn (Norwich being ancient history by late 2016) but he's demonstrably better than Zenga and also all that was on offer at the time, so you go along with it. If he's crap when he starts work, as Lambert largely was, I'll have a go at him.

 

[darlowolf64]

It's up to Starmer to convince me to vote Labour. He hasn't. Far from it.

If you're in an area where the Lib Dems have the chance of winning, I'd hope you'd be voting for them

ABT

 

[Templeton Peck]

If you're in an area where the Lib Dems have the chance of winning, I'd hope you'd be voting for them

ABT

They do. I won't.

 

[Tredman]

 

[Templeton Peck]

They do. I won't.

Sorry but I'm not voting for the food bankers. It's Lab or Lib in my constituency anyway.