Jeremy Corbyn

[Lord Knows]

What's your point?

The point is what Livingstone said is accurate.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

On the radio, Corbyn said there was no crisis in the Labour Party. He even said how sad he was to have to suspend his good friend Ken Livingstone. Some Labour MP's and activists have criticised Corbyns very slow reaction to the anti semetic issue within his party. One wonders how deep this issue goes.

 

[Kenny]

On the radio, Corbyn said there was no crisis in the Labour Party. He even said how sad he was to have to suspend his good friend Ken Livingstone. Some Labour MP's and activists have criticised Corbyns very slow reaction to the anti semetic issue within his party. One wonders how deep this issue goes.

He is not going to say there is a crisis even if there was one. I guess it is sad that someone he is close to has been suspended, on a personal level he is of course is not going to like it.

The speed dealing with Ken was fine but the initial speed to the original issue was slow and not good enough. The right action was taken but way too late. They say you need to learn from your mistakes, so with how quickly Ken was dealt with you would hope those lessons have been learnt.

 

[Lord Knows]

On the radio, Corbyn said there was no crisis in the Labour Party. He even said how sad he was to have to suspend his good friend Ken Livingstone. Some Labour MP's and activists have criticised Corbyns very slow reaction to the anti semetic issue within his party. One wonders how deep this issue goes.

Corbyn is right there is no crisis, just a few blairites having their day in the sun.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

He is not going to say there is a crisis even if there was one. I guess it is sad that someone he is close to has been suspended, on a personal level he is of course is not going to like it.

The speed dealing with Ken was fine but the initial speed to the original issue was slow and not good enough. The right action was taken but way too late. They say you need to learn from your mistakes, so with how quickly Ken was dealt with you would hope those lessons have been learnt.

After the stand up row between Mann and Livingstone, even Corbyn had to act.

 

[Templeton Peck]

The point is what Livingstone said is accurate.

Never let facts get in the way of a politically motivated witch hunt.

 

[ROVERT47]

Corbyn is right there is no crisis, just a few blairites having their day in the sun.

John Mann is about as far removed from being a 'Blairite' as anybody could be.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Never let facts get in the way of a politically motivated witch hunt.

And what witch hunt would that be?

 

[Templeton Peck]

John Mann is about as far removed from being a 'Blairite' as anybody could be.

Not quite. Voted for Iraq war and against an investigation into it.

 

[Templeton Peck]

And what witch hunt would that be?

Going after Corbyn through anti-semitism. Non - stories tbh.

 

[Johnny75]

Never let facts get in the way of a politically motivated witch hunt.

Or indeed tasteless anti-Semitic racist remarks. There is no problem at all is there, just a few people with the wrong ideas...

Or maybe a bunch of racist sympathisers....you never know these days.

 

[Kenny]

Can't really see a witch hunt on this matter. JC was always going to get pushed by the press on this matter.

 

[ROVERT47]

The leader of the Labour party having to defend it against racism, you couldn't make it up.
The sooner they 2020 election arrives and this whole sorry debacle comes to an end the better.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Or indeed tasteless anti-Semitic racist remarks. There is no problem at all is there, just a few people with the wrong ideas...

Or maybe a bunch of racist sympathisers....you never know these days.

Livingstone stated a fact.

Naz Shah posted a meme that suggested Israel be relocated to the USA.

I don't know what else they have said or done but as regards these 2 incidents I can't see any anti-semitism.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

The point is what Livingstone said is accurate.

Don't agree with this at all. At best Livingstone manipulated an historical situation and mis-represented it. No reasonable person could believe that Hitler was assisting Jews by supporting settlement in Palestine. It would have been nothing more than a means of ridding Germany and Europe of people he considered evil.

"The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." Mein Kampf

Livingstone wasn't criticising the Israeli government with his comments today, he was saying that the man responsible for the extermination of millions of Jews was working with them before he went mad. Mein Kampf, published in 1925 - well before Livingstone's historical fact - clearly outlines Hitler's view about Jews. He was defending comments made by Naz Shah who has already acknowledged that she was wrong. Livingstone was engaging it the sort of stereotyping that belongs in the gutter.

There should be no way back for him. Naz Shah, on the other hand, is actively seeking to educate herself and has the opportunity to redeem herself.

It is entirely reasonable to criticise the Israeli government, it should be encouraged - but it is relatively simple to criticise Israel without resorting to anti-semitism. Livingstone's failed.

 

[Tredman]

There's plenty, probably too much, anti-Israel sentiment in the Labour Party

Far too often this is confused with anti-semitism, not to say there isn't anti-semitism because there is in both labour and Tories

 

[Jolemai]

The leader of the Labour party having to defend it against racism, you couldn't make it up.
The sooner they 2020 election arrives and this whole sorry debacle comes to an end the better.

You honestly think this would be different had your preferred candidate bagged the leadership? Wow.

 

[Johnny75]

Livingstone stated a fact.

Naz Shah posted a meme that suggested Israel be relocated to the USA.

I don't know what else they have said or done but as regards these 2 incidents I can't see any anti-semitism.

I pity you if you can't see anti-semitism in either act. I find it disgusting you would defend such actions when one of the people has actively said she was wrong.

I think you need to take a long hard look at yourself for you stance on this.

 

[ROVERT47]

You honestly think this would be different had your preferred candidate bagged the leadership? Wow.

Yes.

 

[Jolemai]

Yes.

Shah made he comments in 2014 before she was an MP and before Corbyn came into power. Your preference would be having to deal with this right now. There would be no difference.