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Jeremy Corbyn

We have an extreme right wing government, how often do political commentators call them such. Just watch any interview regarding Jeremy Corbyn and how they use the term left wing at every opportunity.
The BBC is stacked with right wing presenters from Marr, Robinson to Dimbleby.
 
We have an extreme right wing government, how often do political commentators call them such. Just watch any interview regarding Jeremy Corbyn and how they use the term left wing at every opportunity.
The BBC is stacked with right wing presenters from Marr, Robinson to Dimbleby.

Yeah right.
 
Would be interesting to see Corbyn elected as leader and act as a real opposition to the Conservatives. Do his policies carry any real weight though. It's a massive decision and for me affects the Labour Party going forward. Are they purple or are they red? If he is not elected then I would hope the left leaning resign and go join the SLP rather than pick up their salaries and pensions for a futile cause.
 
We have an extreme right wing government, how often do political commentators call them such. Just watch any interview regarding Jeremy Corbyn and how they use the term left wing at every opportunity.
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I'd agree with that. This current govt are slightly to the right of Thatcher yet all the talk is of Labour needing a leader that can take them to the 'centre ground' to compete with the Tories. Labour are actually now a party of the centre right and have been for some time. If its the centre ground that Labour are after they'd be better off mimicking the policies of the SNP than the Conservatives. Corbyn is the only leader that would take them further to the centre as the other candidates will either leave Labour where it is or else move it even further right. The fact that Corbyn is talked of as an extremist and a disaster says it all for the quality of political debate in this country.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2015
 
I think talk of Corbyn being in the centre ground is hilarious.
 
As for BBC bias I would say its output is conservative with a small c rather than pro-Tory. How anyone can watch BBC coverage of a Royal event and claim left wing bias is beyond me but hey ho.

http://www.newstatesman.com/broadcast/2013/08/hard-evidence-how-biased-bbc

http://www.palestinecampaign.org/bbc-upholds-complaints-of-pro-israel-bias-and-inaccuracy/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23501137

Below are the top 10 things the public get wrong when it comes to their perception of the UK. If the media in the UK does not have a right wing bias then why these misconceptions?

https://www.ipsos-mori.com/research...-are-not-reality-the-top-10-we-get-wrong.aspx
 
The fact that Corbyn is talked of as an extremist and a disaster says it all for the quality of political debate in this country.

In terms of Lab and Con he is an extremist but that's what politics needs. All that matters is what he can communicate to the electorate. I'm open minded but I'd like to know how much of a leader he is who is ' able ' to create change and genuinely and fairly redistribute wealth. Maybe they need to properly define Socialism (which to me isn't a benefit culture)
 
How can anyone suggest Labour need to move to the right to win any election is beyond me. Labour centre / centre right Tory party aping didn't served them well in 2010 or 2015. People haven't actually had any kind of alternative to 1930s austerity presented to them for years so at some point they simply can't be bothered to question the common narrative i.e. that Labour caused the global financial crash of 2008 and that jams on the M4 are the fault of immigrants, whom Labour favour over "us"
 
As a newly minted member of the labour party i'm tempted to vote for him - I almost certainly would vote for him if I thought he wouldn't just get demonised by the nutballs at the sun & mail. As it is if he does get elected it will be more shit about how he wants to take all your hard earned money away and looks crap eating a bacon sandwich.
 
As a newly minted member of the labour party i'm tempted to vote for him - I almost certainly would vote for him if I thought he wouldn't just get demonised by the nutballs at the sun & mail. As it is if he does get elected it will be more shit about how he wants to take all your hard earned money away and looks crap eating a bacon sandwich.

How did you earn your fortune?
 
I don't like this government, but they are not extreme right wing. Nasty capitalist, rob your granny, I would agree with. Extreme right wing, I wouldn't say so.

Economically they are an extreme right wing party. Just slightly to the right of Thatcher.
 
Economically they are an extreme right wing party. Just slightly to the right of Thatcher.

I have always thought that an extreme right wing party, is a fascist party. I would say that the Tory party are a neoliberal party. A neo liberal party, is the opposite of a fascist party. Fascism is directly opposed to globalisation and neoliberalism.
I think this Tory party puts money before state, it doesn't care about it's citizens, but cares about money. It puts money before the interests of the nation. This Tory goverment wants more people, more houses, more immigration, to sell more products. More means, more money for the neoliberals. It also means a lowering of the living standards, lower wages, worse work conditions, more crime, higher house prices, an ineffective police force because of cuts to their budget. the British police only this week said that were not going to be able to go to all burglary scenes. Cuts also for the poor , the weak, the disabled and unfortunate of society. Neoliberalism running wild. OK if you are a house builder, you own a supermarket, or a petrol station. Not too good for the man in the street.
To me, neoliberalism or globalisation has nothing to do with fascism. Fascism is the extreme right.
Fascim is populist ultranationalism, anti-liberal, built on a anti-conservative nationalism. Nationalism is the main foundation of fascism. The fascist view of a nation is of a single organic entity that binds people together by their ancestry, and is a natural unifying force of people. Fascism promotes the establishment of a totalitarian state. All of the above are the opposite of a neoliberal, gloalisation loving Tory party.

Of course, Fascism and neoliberalism are both wicked, but too me fascism is the extreme right wing.
 
You can be extreme right wing without being fascist and that's what I believe Gideon/IDS are.
 
You can be extreme right wing without being fascist and that's what I believe Gideon/IDS are.

Where on the spectrum would you put Hitler, Franco and Mussolini? Who believed in exactly the opposite of neoliberalism and globalisation.
 
Their economic policies were entirely different to the rest of their political ideology.

In what way is this government not extreme right wing in terms of economics? After all they believe in extreme shrinking of the state and believe that poor people are poor because they deserve to be. Where would you put their economic policy on the chart? Without making asinine comparisons to other right wing leaders.
 
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