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Jeremy Corbyn

Penk Wolf said:
To be fair, this forum isn't typical of the people that I've spoken to about Brexit and I can't think of one (I'm sure there probably is) person that has talked in the way the majority of this forum does. Maybe it's the people I've spoken to, but it does make me laugh how this place has reacted.
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I totally agree.
 
Really? Have you ever opened facebook or twitter since last June?

Loads and loads of people reacting the same way.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
Really? Have you ever opened facebook or twitter since last June?

Loads and loads of people reacting the same way.
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TBF, apart from places like this forum, people's news feeds probably reflect their own opinions.

For example, all my news/views of the world pretty much come from the Guardian app on my phone, accounts I follow on twitter (who tend to predominantly think like I do) or Channel 4 News. Therefore, I see opinions/articles about what a fucking bad idea brexit is on a daily basis and, apart from some of the loonies on twitter you occasionally stumble across, I don't see anybody thinking it's a great idea (probably because it's not).

However, if I regularly looked at right wing media/social media I would probably be of the impression that everyone is celebrating the holy brexit and the awesome deal that our fine government are going to get for us.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
Really? Have you ever opened facebook or twitter since last June?

Loads and loads of people reacting the same way.
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The only Facebook Friends are ones from this forum. Twitter maybe a bit different, although it's still not that many.
 
Tyrannosaurus Dan said:
TBF, apart from places like this forum, people's news feeds probably reflect their own opinions.

For example, all my news/views of the world pretty much come from the Guardian app on my phone, accounts I follow on twitter (who tend to predominantly think like I do) or Channel 4 News. Therefore, I see opinions/articles about what a fucking bad idea brexit is on a daily basis and, apart from some of the loonies on twitter you occasionally stumble across, I don't see anybody thinking it's a great idea (probably because it's not).

However, if I regularly looked at right wing media/social media I would probably be of the impression that everyone is celebrating the holy brexit and the awesome deal that our fine government are going to get for us.
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That'll be the "left-wing echo chamber" I keep hearing about. Of course, if you only absorb right-wing sources, that's not an echo chamber, that's reality.
 
Hmmm

Strange. I grew up in a true blue area. They weighed the Conservative vote to save time. It is now the speaker's constituency. Most of my friends went to selective schools as it was just about the last county to retain selection examinations. You don't get a much more right of centre environment.

And yet to a man and a woman, they all seem to be reflecting a lot of the views on here about how utterly shit Brexit will be.
 
I think thats known as a self selecting sample Frank.

I'd say most of my friends are 50/50, or possible 55/45 remain. My colleagues, business acquaintances and customers were all uniformly Remain.
 
tredman said:
I think thats known as a self selecting sample Frank.

I'd say most of my friends are 50/50, or possible 55/45 remain. My colleagues, business acquaintances and customers were all uniformly Remain.
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Friends and business were about a 50/50 split, but I don't see anyone complaining about what has happened. I guess this may change if in 2 years time their life starts to change. Most businesses I know are doing well at the moment and seeing an increase in business, so are saying Brexit has little impact, again I guess the moaning may start if this isn't the case in 2 years time.
 
My friends probably 90% remain.

Colleagues - 100% remain (I work in a university).

I don't know many people who voted leave.
 
Penk Wolf said:
Friends and business were about a 50/50 split, but I don't see anyone complaining about what has happened. I guess this may change if in 2 years time their life starts to change. Most businesses I know are doing well at the moment and seeing an increase in business, so are saying Brexit has little impact, again I guess the moaning may start if this isn't the case in 2 years time.
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I mainly moan about the exchange rate, but that's reduced recently to only about once or twice an hour :)

Most people are getting on with it, but I know a good few medium sized manufacturers who are considerably worried. We even have a Brexit team looking at how to mitigate a drop of 20% in sales of Euro goods and a drop in real revenue of 15% for GBP sales.
 
My colleagues were all remain, which isn't surprising considering where I work. My brothers and sisters and in-laws were all remain. In the main, the people I know who voted to leave were older folk like my parents and a few Conservative-voting aquaintances.
 
tredman said:
I mainly moan about the exchange rate, but that's reduced recently to only about once or twice an hour :)

Most people are getting on with it, but I know a good few medium sized manufacturers who are considerably worried. We even have a Brexit team looking at how to mitigate a drop of 20% in sales of Euro goods and a drop in real revenue of 15% for GBP sales.
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Yeah, I moan about the dollar as I buy in dollars, although the increase in business makes the dollar change more of annoyance than anything too serious. I don't get people moaning about the Euro as it's not too weak compared to what it was in the not too distant past.
 
Ultimately, nobody has any choice but to get on with it, do they? Just because people kill time on here arguing about it, doesn't mean it's dominating the rest of their lives.

For what it's worth, the low £ has boosted my business beautifully so while I'd rather all this wasn't happening, it's not like it's doing me much personal harm at the moment. And I've still got my Irish citizenship to fall back on if I want to be a European in the future.
 
Penk Wolf said:
To be fair, this forum isn't typical of the people that I've spoken to about Brexit and I can't think of one (I'm sure there probably is) person that has talked in the way the majority of this forum does. Maybe it's the people I've spoken to, but it does make me laugh how this place has reacted.
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A lot of people that I speak to have voted to remain. There again a lot of others that I speak to, voted to leave. Those that wanted us to leave were generally low paid, low skilled, on benefits or older. They (the leavers) generally refer to immigrants using derogatory language too.
 
I would say I am in a minority of 1 at my workplace - as far as I know, everybody else voted leave. My wife/Dad voted remain but I think all the in-laws voted leave apart from one of wife's sisters.

If you look at the English share of the vote alone then I would say there was a much higher majority that voted to leave than the official 52%. That doesn't really surprise me though as I would say we are generally a pretty arrogant, xenophobic country that loves nothing more than to 'stick it to the French/Germans/Italians etc'.

I am aware I am in the minority with my views but I guess one of the reasons I like this forum so much is that it has more vocal central/left leaning posters than others.
 
More austerity abound then.
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