Jeremy Corbyn

[thehistorymakers]

I don't see the EU as an enemy and would want the first agreement to be that EU nationals already living and working in England, can continue to live and work in England and be treated exactly the same as any other British national.

 

[arklowolf]

Question time. Emily Thornbury FFS. Laughable.

 

[Premier Quality]

I don't see the EU as an enemy and would want the first agreement to be that EU nationals already living and working in England, can continue to live and work in England and be treated exactly the same as any other British national.

And they will, if the Eu agree to the same for U.K. Nationals living in the eu.

I don't understand why people get so annoyed that we haven't allowed eu nationals permanent residency when the eu won't agree the other way - we offered, it's the eu that said no...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Because using people's actual lives as a bargaining chip is totally amoral, maybe.

 

[Premier Quality]

On the eu side presumably? Or is that ok as it doesn't fit the narrative?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

On both sides.

 

[Premier Quality]

So if I offer to just agree all can stay on both sides, and you say no, we're both amoral?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't think there's a chance our lot are acting so charitably given their long standing track record.

I'm not interested in who started it or who is 'worse', this isn't the playground and this isn't some silly little game.

 

[Penk Wolf]

You say that, but from what I see the EU want to turn into some silly game.

For what it's worth, UK companies have always been good at adjusting and this will be no different.

 

[Premier Quality]

It's not about who started it - one side is happy to sort the issue out today and allow everyone to stay where they are, the other isn't.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Like I say, I have great difficulty in believing that a Government which actively seeks to strip the disabled and the poor of miniscule sums of money has suddenly acquired a conscience.

They might like to tell you it's all the EU holding it up but I don't buy it for a second.

 

[Premier Quality]

But that's just you saying 'anything they ever do is bad, regardless of facts or circumstances.'

But Ms May's attempt at a “reciprocity deal”, which would have guaranteed the existing rights of around 1.2 million British people on the continent and millions of EU migrants in the UK, was blocked by the German Chancellor.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.te...sh-voters-backed-brexit-creating-anxiety/amp/

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.in...ela-merkel-eu-migrants-deal-a7445261.html?amp

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Then they shouldn't have such a reprehensible track record, should they, then I wouldn't need to view them with such suspicion

We'll soon see in March, when A50 is triggered.

 

[Premier Quality]

Haha, fair enough!

My personal point of view (then I have to shut up and go to a meeting) is that there are a fair few things that can be criticised as the governments fault, but this isn't one of them.

I also find all the hyperbole (not you, but generally) a bit much. Everything's so dramatic!

 

[So Long Architect]

Haha, fair enough!

My personal point of view (then I have to shut up and go to a meeting) is that there are a fair few things that can be criticised as the governments fault, but this isn't one of them.

I also find all the hyperbole (not you, but generally) a bit much. Everything's so dramatic!

"NEWS: Man who didn't really care much about something in the first place can't really understand what all the fuss is about."

 

[Penk Wolf]

"NEWS: Man who didn't really care much about something in the first place can't really understand what all the fuss is about."

To be fair, this forum isn't typical of the people that I've spoken to about Brexit and I can't think of one (I'm sure there probably is) person that has talked in the way the majority of this forum does. Maybe it's the people I've spoken to, but it does make me laugh how this place has reacted.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'm perfectly content to be different from most people in this country

 

[Penk Wolf]

I'm perfectly content to be different from most people in this country

I totally get your argument of being European, as I do of those that are pissed off with those that want to 'close the borders', but the economy argument, I don't get.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

What don't you get?

Cutting off free entry to our biggest export market is so obviously going to be bad. The only deals being mooted with any flesh even in the same time zone as the bones are a completely ethereal deal with Mr Soundbite over the Atlantic who is so protectionist the deal will suit one party alone, and, for some bizarre reason, New Zealand, a tiny TINY economic partner. When pressed they simply cannot name another country where a deal might be in the offing because no other country has given them anything to hang even the most vapid argument on.

Prices are going to go up as import duties rise. Wages will have to go up. Ergo inflation is a certainty.

If we go down the slashed corporation tax route being mooted if we don't get our own way, then our tax receipts are also going to get massively cut so services are going to be chopped when they are already at bare bones levels.

Apart from that the economy should be brilliant news all the way.

 

[So Long Architect]

To be fair, this forum isn't typical of the people that I've spoken to about Brexit and I can't think of one (I'm sure there probably is) person that has talked in the way the majority of this forum does. Maybe it's the people I've spoken to, but it does make me laugh how this place has reacted.

Well, it's a self-selecting sample, isn't it? People who can be bothered to post about it will generally be the ones who feel strongly. There's a mass of forumites who never post on the politics threads.