How long has Corbyn got left?

[Tony Towner]

RLB is best priced 9/1. Seems it's Starmer's and we can have a credible opposition again. Shame we had to waste 4 1/2 years to get there

 

[Papper]

Gorgeous calls this succinctly. It's back to establishment boys.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/480227-corbyn-blair-labour-party-leadership/

Gorgeous - It’s back to the election-winning ways of Tony Blair for Labour. Mr Blair won three consecutive general elections albeit by promising, and delivering, the precise opposite of what a “labour” party is supposed to.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

*posts Alan Partridge "meh" gif*

 

[nimrod]

Gorgeous calls this succinctly. It's back to establishment boys.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/480227-corbyn-blair-labour-party-leadership/

Gorgeous - It’s back to the election-winning ways of Tony Blair for Labour. Mr Blair won three consecutive general elections albeit by promising, and delivering, the precise opposite of what a “labour” party is supposed to.

at least when you show your annoyance at these political happenings i can be less annoyed about you pretending to be an anarchist.

 

[visage]

Galloway got 489 votes at the last election. When even the residents of West Brom reject you the game is up.

 

[Papper]

Galloway got 489 votes at the last election. When even the residents of West Brom reject you the game is up.

Seat won by the Conservatives for the first time largely because of Brexit. A place where unemployment is far higher than the national average. Galloway also a Brexiteer.

 

[visage]

And a rancid antisemitic cunt who should be ignored.

 

[Papper]

at least when you show your annoyance at these political happenings i can be less annoyed about you pretending to be an anarchist.

I am not annoyed and yes I am still an anarchist. If you care to be annoyed then good for you. I want to see the whole system, the whole globalised inhumane corrupt mess brought down bit by bit ...

 

[nimrod]

I am not annoyed and yes I am still an anarchist. If you care to be annoyed then good for you. I want to see the whole system, the whole globalised inhumane corrupt mess brought down bit by bit ...

yeah, a pretend one. Based on your posts that i’ve read you’re far too invested in the machinations of certain political parties and in upholding elements of a hugely flawed democracy to be one. The best I could say is that the definition of anarchy has been corrupted by its enemies and you’re allowing yourself to be defined by that corruption. I mean I could even imagine you voting Tory in some sort of delusional fantasy it’ll help to ‘bring down the system’.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Dawn Butler claiming people are born without a biological sex. Good grief.

 

[arklowolf]

Dawn Butler claiming people are born without a biological sex. Good grief.

Some are born without brains and morals like this expense fiddling, self serving, fraud.

 

[Papper]

yeah, a pretend one. Based on your posts that i’ve read you’re far too invested in the machinations of certain political parties and in upholding elements of a hugely flawed democracy to be one. The best I could say is that the definition of anarchy has been corrupted by its enemies and you’re allowing yourself to be defined by that corruption. I mean I could even imagine you voting Tory in some sort of delusional fantasy it’ll help to ‘bring down the system’.

So tell me what you believe to be true anarchy?

 

[Papper]

Dawn Butler claiming people are born without a biological sex. Good grief.

The brain is biological and can be non gender specific. Whether that is instrinsic or develops through that person's influences and environment is open to reasoning.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I have a transgender child. Biological sex has nothing to do with what the brain of the person wants. That’s why so many now have gender corrective surgery.

 

[nimrod]

So tell me what you believe to be true anarchy?

not my job to educate you.

but I posted an anarchist quote to you a while back that described democracy as the worst tyranny in response to your banging on about democratic will. I think an actual anarchist would have at least attempted to explain how trying to uphold something described as the worst tyranny of all is consistent in any way with his anarchist credo. it didn't even draw a response from you.

I get the anti-capitalist, anti-corporate views you hold, but they don't make you an anarchist per se, unless you are choosing to be falsely defined by the media.

based on your views I'd say you want a more representative form of "democracy" with wholly different values to those that apply in ours. nothing dishonourable in that, it just doesn't make you an anarchist. it may however make you politically homeless in the current climate.

 

[BGreenWolf]

The Butler stuff seems to be someone valiantly trying to get to grips with a horrendously difficult and nuanced subject in good faith, and making an almighty bungle of it.

Biological sex exists. Biological gender is the nuanced one.

 

[pr0sl0]

Biological sex characteristics do exist on a spectrum, though. The spectrum has the vast majority of people piled up at either end, but that doesn't still mean you get a lot of people in the middle - there are more intersex people in the world than redheads, for example. It's only in recent years that doctors have started to recognise that surgically "correcting" abnormal sex organs at birth can lead to psychological issues in later life.

More concerned about the ongoing attempts to create a pointless culture war with a new gay panic around trans and intersex rights than by an MP bumbling over some terminology.

 

[Templeton Peck]

The Butler stuff seems to be someone valiantly trying to get to grips with a horrendously difficult and nuanced subject in good faith, and making an almighty bungle of it.

Biological sex exists. Biological gender is the nuanced one.

Gender is a social construction.

 

[Paul]

Biological sex characteristics do exist on a spectrum

How ?

 

[Templeton Peck]

Biological sex characteristics do exist on a spectrum, though. The spectrum has the vast majority of people piled up at either end, but that doesn't still mean you get a lot of people in the middle - there are more intersex people in the world than redheads, for example. It's only in recent years that doctors have started to recognise that surgically "correcting" abnormal sex organs at birth can lead to psychological issues in later life.

More concerned about the ongoing attempts to create a pointless culture war with a new gay panic around trans and intersex rights than by an MP bumbling over some terminology.

A spectrum suggests a range where any value is equally possible but this isn't the case with sex - there are only 2 categories. You'll have exceptions for sure but nothing like enough to suggest a spectrum. This has nothing to do with being trans though. Trans people have a gender identity that doesn't correspond with their biological sex.