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[Johnny75]

All things considered GON has done well, and much better than I expected.

I don't think the latter part of that sentence can be disputed.

I don't think he's done well, but that's my personal opinion. I would've expected Lop to have a better points total and style with this squad. But that's old ground.

 

[sycophantia]

Overall its been a bit up and down so far but you've gotta be happy with the goals we're scoring and our league position.
Will GON be good enough long term? Dunno, if we can finish mid table or a bit higher and he cuts out some of the weird selections, tactics, subs, then I would worry a bit who we bring in should he leave. I really don't like changing coach every season or two.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't think the latter part of that sentence can be disputed.

I don't think he's done well, but that's my personal opinion. I would've expected Lop to have a better points total and style with this squad. But that's old ground.

We play better football now than we ever did under Lopetegui in any actual competitive games, it is of course possible he'd have played differently this season.

 

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[PuntsWolf]

GON getting a lot of stick about weird decisions ans subs. Some things I don’t agree with (taking off Sarabia for example, but I know why he did it) but he just doesn’t trust anyone outside the core 12 or 13, one of which is injured.

An experienced manager like JL was making changes in the early parts which were were 50/50 good or terrible and them switched that to having to make 2 changes at HT regularly as we got it completely wrong to start with.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

GON getting a lot of stick about weird decisions ans subs. Some things I don’t agree with (taking off Sarabia for example, but I know why he did it) but he just doesn’t trust anyone outside the core 12 or 13, one of which is injured.

An experienced manager like JL was making changes in the early parts which were were 50/50 good or terrible and them switched that to having to make 2 changes at HT regularly as we got it completely wrong to start with.

Totally agree. The stick he gets about subs is harsh IMO, they can mostly be very easily justified (except Doc, he should have learnt regarding Doc.)

 

[Johnny75]

We play better football now than we ever did under Lopetegui in any actual competitive games, it is of course possible he'd have played differently this season.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Johnny75]

GON getting a lot of stick about weird decisions ans subs. Some things I don’t agree with (taking off Sarabia for example, but I know why he did it) but he just doesn’t trust anyone outside the core 12 or 13, one of which is injured.

An experienced manager like JL was making changes in the early parts which were were 50/50 good or terrible and them switched that to having to make 2 changes at HT regularly as we got it completely wrong to start with.

Matt Doherty should not be playing football at this level yet he's consistently picked.

Let's not paint GoN as a good game manager, he isn't. Good man manager, yes but in game he's still learning.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Totally agree. The stick he gets about subs is harsh IMO, they can mostly be very easily justified (except Doc, he should have learnt regarding Doc.)

But I know why he did it. Bueno couldn’t last the remaining time as we found out against Burnley and Jonny is done. I felt he should have just put Toti out there (moreso in hindsight) but I know why he didn’t.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

But I know why he did it. Bueno couldn’t last the remaining time as we found out against Burnley and Jonny is done. I felt he should have just put Toti out there (moreso in hindsight) but I know why he didn’t.

Well he had a few options, bring Santi on and put Toti to LWB, or bring any attacking player on for Hugo and put Toti LB, the 3rd option is play Doc at LWB where he was awful against Fulham, i don't think there's an excuse for it - it was a really poor choice.

But Traore for Lemina made sense, we needed the physicality, you can't legislate for that Traore performance, nor Bellegarde's. Leaving Hwang and Cunha on as long as he did was fair too, they're our most likely scorers at the moment.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Let's not paint GoN as a good game manager, he isn't.

Haven't we won a number of points from losing positions?

 

[Johnny75]

Haven't we won a number of points from losing positions?

Only Spurs and Everton you could say he made a difference with his subs and no games with a change of tactics have yielded points.

Everything else no and 5 of the first 6 actively detrimental.

I thought he was getting better at it but the last 3 games have been poor.

Still no doubt he's a good man manager and measurably improved players.

 

[Tony Towner]

Gained 8, lost 7 so par

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

But Traore for Lemina made sense, we needed the physicality, you can't legislate for that Traore performance, not Bellegarde's.

I'll disagree there, Doyle's creativity would have been more useful than Bouba's heft. Forest were letting us have the ball and barely attacking with their no striker.

He shouldn't be using Doherty at all but that's an inherited situation.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I'll disagree there, Doyle's creativity would have been more useful than Bouba's heft. Forest were letting us have the ball and barely attacking with their no striker.

He shouldn't be using Doherty at all but that's an inherited situation.

With hindsight I'd agree. But at the time, Traore seemed a like for like option, I get why he did it. If Traore had performed better it wouldn't be a talking point, but he was crap.

 

[Johnny75]

Gained 8, lost 7 so par

How have you worked that out?

I make won 7, lost 13

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Only Spurs and Everton you could say he made a difference with his subs and no games with a change of tactics have yielded points.

Everything else no and 5 of the first 6 actively detrimental.

I thought he was getting better at it but the last 3 games have been poor.

Still no doubt he's a good man manager and measurably improved players.

Well we played Arsenal away in the first one, and got 4 points in the other two, so it's unfair to say it's poor, especially when 2 of his best players have been out, I don't think enough has been made of RAN and Neto's absence, we were always going to be less exciting with such a huge drop off in flair.

If we play like we did against Forest with those 2 back, then I'd be worried.

 

[Johnny75]

Well we played Arsenal away in the first one, and got 4 points in the other to, so it's unfair to say it's poor, especially when 2 of his best players have been out, I don't think enough has been made of RAN and Neto's absence, we were always going to be less exciting with such a huge drop off in flair.

If we play like we did against Forest with those 2 back, then I'd be worried.

The bolded bit I agree with

I think his in game management has been poor, not the results (although we should've beat Forest). 4 from 3 isn't a bad collection of points but the two home games have been poor fare.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Only Spurs and Everton you could say he made a difference with his subs and no games with a change of tactics have yielded points.

And Bournemouth? Bringing Doyle on for Gomes at HT was brave, and turned us around.

We came back twice against Newcastle too (again bringing on Doyle)

 

[Tony Towner]

How have you worked that out?

I make won 7, lost 13

From winning/losing positions
Liverpool -3
Luton -2
Villa -2
Bournemouth +3
Newcastle +1
Spurs +3
Forest +1