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[Templeton Peck]

Isn't it? Seems to me the scrutiny has never been higher, at least not in the last ~15 years.

The tech gives them a fall back option. Also made them less confident in their own decision making.

 

[pagey]

Isn't it? Seems to me the scrutiny has never been higher, at least not in the last ~15 years.

I'd say the scrutiny comes into play at the blokes sat in the van, watching every detail over and over, from every angle and still getting wrong. Refs have always made mistakes and get some slack for odd fuck ups, no excuse at stockley Park

 

[Alan]

It's higher because of VAR. Nobody would have mentioned Hwang or Kilman's disallowed goals before it.

Exactly my point.

 

[Tony Towner]

Pointless, you know via social media or the stadium announcer why it's been disallowed. The ref saying it will just make things more agitated in the stadium

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785348938054201621

 

[pagey]

If they don't want to bin it, i dont understand the problem with the discussion being announced live, let the fans in the stadium understand what's going on and how the decision has been made.

 

[Tony Towner]

If they don't want to bin it, i dont understand the problem with the discussion being announced live, let the fans in the stadium understand what's going on and how the decision has been made.

Agreed, but that's not what is being suggested. They aren't showing it or properly explaining it, just going to say x fouled y or a was offside. Pointless and will create an even bigger bear pit

 

[The Bear]

They aren't showing it or properly explaining it, just going to say x fouled y or a was offside. Pointless and will create an even bigger bear pit

Yep will just allow the crowd to directly abuse the ref as well as singing fuck VAR.

 

[Sniffer]

Has the audio of Forests one that should have been overturned been done yet? I’d like to know how they come to a conclusion that Young took the ball.

 

[Tony Towner]

Has the audio of Forests one that should have been overturned been done yet? I’d like to know how they come to a conclusion that Young took the ball.

Tayls made the correct decision. Atwell is seen as our best VAR ref, hence him going to the Euros

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785345106024759554

 

[YoungWolf]

So they are actually blind

 

[Johnny75]

Tayls made the correct decision. Atwell is seen as our best VAR ref, hence him going to the Euros

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785345106024759554

Unbelievable that these idiots think it's normal contact.

That's not to do with the tech that's sheer incompetence and lack of knowledge.

In a related piece of ref nonsense Dermot Gallagher on the silly ref watch segment of SSN suggested there wasn't enough contact on Kulesevski for Spurs for a penalty and he tripped himself up.

This was despite him being shown that the contract was enough to take him down.

We need officials that understand body movement and the game itself rather than these complete tools

 

[Tredman]

Tayls made the correct decision. Atwell is seen as our best VAR ref, hence him going to the Euros

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785345106024759554

What the fuck?

 

[pagey]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785390004937621981

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1785390004937621981

I think that's 3 games now

 

[Sniffer]

Attwell doesn’t look at it objectively at all. He’s supposed to be looking to see if an error has taken place and he immediately finds excuses not to bother. He’s blind to the contact by Young on Odoi and mentions both playing the ball. If you were to think of a decision being made on a pre conceived bias for whatever reason then there’s a perfect example.
I’d liked to have listened to the other two incidents which I can understand them being deemed as subjective just to hear what his attitude was.

 

[Tony Towner]

Attwell doesn’t look at it objectively at all. He’s supposed to be looking to see if an error has taken place and he immediately finds excuses not to bother. He’s blind to the contact by Young on Odoi and mentions both playing the ball. If you were to think of a decision being made on a pre conceived bias for whatever reason then there’s a perfect example.
I’d liked to have listened to the other two incidents which I can understand them being deemed as subjective just to hear what his attitude was.

And here's the inconsistency, the same ref gave a penalty in the last minute against us for Fulham for significantly less contact

 

[Tredman]

Sums it up pretty well for me. It’s a lot of money to pay to have no clue what is going on while those at home watch endless replays

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[Tony Towner]

Sums it up pretty well for me. It’s a lot of money to pay to have no clue what is going on while those at home watch endless replays

WOLVES FANS AND VAR

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It's spot on

 

[lemonjelly]

How come Akanji isn't classed as interfering with play & therefore offside for man city's 3rd today? He's right in front of the keeper & makes an attempt to play the ball before Gvardiol?

 

[Tony Towner]

How come Akanji isn't classed as interfering with play & therefore offside for man city's 3rd today? He's right in front of the keeper & makes an attempt to play the ball before Gvardiol?

I've not seen it, but I've highlighted the relevant part